Police getting spanked by E30 M3 ...

[LateNightCable]

Apparently this is quite a forum favorite on the internet, so in case none of you have ever seen it, here it is.

The story goes that the M3 belongs to the father of the 15 year old guy behind the wheel. I should note that the ending of the video is bogus propaganda. The M3 " breaking down " is really just a slow motion replay of the part where the kid hits his brakes. He actually got away, and was later found at home. You know those chase shows always have to make it seem like the cops always win, even when they don't.

[kleinefisch]

Damn man! That's crazy! If my son ever pulled that, I'd go Goodfellas on his ass. That kid can drive though. I wouldn't be surprised to see him take over for Schumacher (actually, I probably would, but you get the idea).

[thepolarfoxqx]

yeah, that was some sweet driving. That car had guts. It was just bang 150mph like it was nothing. That is pretty damn cool. When I was 14 I stole my dad's '82 alfa romeo spyder, i didn't get into any sort of police chase, but it was pretty fun. My dad thought it was funny, and told me if i did it again, he'd kick my ass, my mom is still bitching at me about that how many years later?

all car nuts i'm sure stole a relatives performance car before they were of driving age, that poor fool just got caught.

[LateNightCable]

If that police officer can learn one thing from this chase, I hope that he learns that it's better to stop, face the consequences now, than to keep running after that M3.

[thepolarfoxqx]

Truly, if that is what an E30 M3 can do to that many cops, I'd love to see them try against something like M5-S2 or Hartge H50, they'd just get killed, absolutely slaughtered. I know someone who got chased by a Minnesota State Patrol Crown Vic when they were in their slightly modified 540i 6spd, they effortlessly got away, which is sad, but at the same time, there is a good lesson here, cops, just pretend you didn't see the bavarian motor weapon and you'll live a happier life

[GIR]

That little footage they show in the end isn't the footage of the bimmer breaking down. It's edited, they show the part of him breaking for the stopsticks. *edit* LNC already said that should learn to read.

The copper justifying that the kid "made a move indicating he was going to ram him" is BS! He lost control over the vehicle cause he couldn't drive and was chicken. BWAAAAK!

If you look closely you see the copper first going towards the bimmer and then swerve back.

What happens:

* Copper gets beside the bimmer

* Copper looks towards the bimmer and yells "GIVE UP!"

* Copper is not paying attention to the road during his yelling session

* Copper didn't know his wheels aren't aligned properly

* Copper doesn't know having misaligned wheels at 150mph is dangerous

* Copper looks back and sees he was drifting towards the bimmer

* Copper panics

* Copper doesn't know what todo

* Copper swerve all over the road

* Copper go boom

* Copper almost hit other copper

* Copper go boom once again

He steered back too hard and lost control over the car. Doing a maneuver like that at 150mph in a Camaro isn't really a good idea, something a *cough* experienced deputy *cough* should know. If the kid was going to ram him he should've steered into the bimmer. Eventualy the guy with the heaviest car would push the other to the side but it would definatly stop the car.

And here is something I've been "bothered" about. Americans say "near mis" when 2 objects almost hit. It's a near hit! If they hit each other but they almost missed it's a "near mis"! When something like that happens, what do you do? Point at the incident and say: "Look, they nearly missed". Now could you please correct this error?

[Mongrel]

i have had that video for a while, it is pretty bad, but the only reason he got away was becasue it was supercharged, if the camaro with the vette engine was supercharged, it would have whooped on the BMW, but that was still awsome that kid could drive!!!

[GIR]

I'm not so sure about that. A supercharger only is good in the low rpm ranges, it doesn't add much to the highend, it doesn't add anything to the driverskills and it certainly doesn't add anything to the handeling.

The kid doesn't do much accelerating, most of the time it's flatout. The only time the supercharger would do the Camaro any good is when the kid changes driving directions. The Camaro could've out accelerated it and gotten infront of it and cut the driver off, but I think the reason why the Camaro didn't get infront of it in the first place is because the cop was on the dirt.

Handeling wise the Camaro is nothing compare to the M3. You can see the M3 swerving in and out, left to right like it's nothing. The cop in his Camaro has to make one move and the car is totaly out of control. Just look at the part where the cop sais: "He almost hit a Rossville unit". That's some supreme driving and handeling right there.

The M3 slides past the spikestrip, over the dirt (not much grip there), like it's nothing while the cop in the Camaro is breaking and steering very very hard. You can see the M3 shooting away from the Camaro. The M3 hardly lost any speed while the Camaro almost stood still.

Everytime they have to make a move you can see the M3 shoot away from the Camaro. Everytime they have a straight the Camaro cathes up. Everytime they have a really long straight the Camaro runs out of steam and the M3 goes into highgear leaving the Camaro way behind.

[LateNightCable]

The commentator on the show is reading from a script, written with an emphasis on drama, by a script writer who probably knows nothing about cars. They said the car had 240 hp. and did 0-60 in 5.7. Sounds like they went digging around in a car magazine for E36 stats on that one. And I doubt the engine was " supercharged " as they said either. Perhaps chipped, but not charged.

[thepolarfoxqx]

The camaro's 350hp still weren't enough, furthermore, a police camaro has a lot of aerodynamic drag, coupled with the LT1 being an antiquated piece of pushrod hardware give it no top end. The handling is also pretty bad. Really bad actually. The 240hp is probably from some modding, there are so many parts out there to crank more power from the E30 M3, 240 woudln't be hard at at all. The official 0-60 time on the E36 was 5.5 with the stick shift, 5.2 for the lightweight editon. I'm not sure if it was a stock M3 (6.9 0-60 with 192hp), or if it really was modded up to 240, in which case, it should have been easily under 6 secconds (the E30 M3 is very lightweight). That engine didn't supercharge well anyway, my guess is that it was naturally aspirated, and the people at cops only wanted to make it look like the good guy really was better, when in fact he was beaten by a 15 year old in a car a decade old with 110 fewer horsepower.

Clearly, as the BMW CCA will tell you, both BMWs and their drivers tend to be superior

[Mongrel]

i have one of a Talon TSi like this getting chased by a 5.0 liter mustang, the mustang owned the all wheel drive, but the talon could accelerate, but had no top end, the mustang had plenty of top end, but they only hit like 140

[reggid]

The commentator on the show is reading from a script, written with an emphasis on drama, by a script writer who probably knows nothing about cars. They said the car had 240 hp. and did 0-60 in 5.7. Sounds like they went digging around in a car magazine for E36 stats on that one. And I doubt the engine was " supercharged " as they said either. Perhaps chipped, but not charged.

The m3 e30 evo II had a 2.5L 4 with 240hp but wasn't a sub 6 sec car. It is an awesome car though, more appealing than an e36 in my opinion.

[djfux69]

that video was on a forum im on a while ago. cops are sooo dumb, we all know he got away. another thing... you know when the driver " motioned with his shoulder he was gonna swerve at him" why would the officer swerve in his directuion first? i dont know about you but if someone swerves at me i dont swerve towards them... IMO the cop swerved at him and because he wasnt in a finely tuned peice of german artwork he lost control.. idiot. its a system of control, the cops want you to know that you will get caught if you run... i ran 3 times me 3 them 0... i win.

edit: before someone raises the BS flag on me i would like to add this, the cops never got close enough to me to get my plate or i would have been screwed. i took off with my faster car, and took an exit. they never found me.

[LateNightCable]

The M3 owned the camaro, are you kidding.

I'm saying I doubt the M3 was supercharged, they said it was.

I don't think that M3 was an Evo which from what I've seen has a destinctive red body stripe, although the official number for the EvoII was I believe 238 hp. I think they were reeling off E36 stats when they said 240 and 0-60 in 5.7.

It's true, if you know the roads, and you have a good enough car, you can just about make a sport out of getting chased by cops.

[thepolarfoxqx]

a sport? i don't know, I don't want to be bubba's wife.

If you have a fast car - at all, you can easily escape one of the crown vic cop cars, and if it is, as seen, M3 E30 or better, not even the camaro can stop you

Just open a nice distance, pull of and exit, and they don't find you. Not so hard.

Keep in mind, the police crown vics are limited to 130mph, and most people on this site's cars are not

[GIR]

Talk about giving the cops a run for the money (I know it's OT) check this out.

 

This guy goes around Stockholm with his Turbocharged Hayabusa (posibily the fastest Hayabusa in the world) at speeds of excess 400km/h (250mph) picking fights with the police.

Check out some of the trailers, it's sickening, specialy the one where the camera bike is going 300km/h (187mph) and the Ghostrider passes the cambike doing a wheely.

If you have enough experience and you have the right equipment, the cops can't do anything to catch you.

[skyline_r34v]

that video was on a forum im on a while ago. cops are sooo dumb, we all know he got away. another thing... you know when the driver " motioned with his shoulder he was gonna swerve at him" why would the officer swerve in his directuion first? i dont know about you but if someone swerves at me i dont swerve towards them... IMO the cop swerved at him and because he wasnt in a finely tuned peice of german artwork he lost control.. idiot. its a system of control, the cops want you to know that you will get caught if you run... i ran 3 times me 3 them 0... i win.

edit: before someone raises the BS flag on me i would like to add this, the cops never got close enough to me to get my plate or i would have been screwed. i took off with my faster car, and took an exit. they never found me.

Oh i don't call bullshit at all. I've outran them in the eclipse numerous times, effortlessly.

(Not braggin though so don't get that idea.)

It's relatively easy to get away from the Crown Victoria but not that easy 2 outrun their radios.

Ok, here is a list of the Police Vehicles u see everyday or near everyday.

The 1st two Crown Vic Police Interceptors; Top model and LWB.

Top Crown Victoria Interceptor:

HP: 235hp

Torque: 275 ft/lbs

Weight: 4,155lbs

Trans: 4-speed Auto

0-60mph: 8.42 secs

1/4 mile: 16.43 @86.53mph

Top speed: 129mph

LWB Crown Victoria Interceptor: (the common one giving out tickets)

HP: 220

Torque: 265 ft/lbs

Weight: 4,048lbs

Trans: 4-speed Auto

0-60mph: 9.90 secs

1/4 mile: 17.48 @82.58mph

Top speed: 104mph

Then there is the others: LT-1 Camaro '94+ models and Chevy Impala. The Camaro is nowhere near slow but not exactly VROOOOOOOM either.

LT-1 Camaro Police:

HP: 310

Torque: 335 ft/lbs

Weight: 3,462lbs

Trans: 4-speed Auto

0-60mph: 5.69secs (MotorTrend claims 5.8secs)

1/4 mile: 14.14 @102.48mph (MotorTrend claims 14.4secs)

Top speed: 159mph

Chevy Impala Police:

HP: 200

Torque: 200 ft/lbs

Weight: 3,593lbs

Trans: 4-speed Auto

0-60mph: 9.21secs

1/4 mile: 17.04 @83.65mph

Top speed: 124mph

So there u have it folks.

Those r the stats of the police vehicles that u go up against on a daily basis that *stops* u 4 tickets.

Well most of u won't run up against the Camaro since there were not as many models produced.

No matter if u did though most of us still have cars that can pull away from it simply jus like the M3.

Of course don't go out doin it urself cuz if ur license plate is seen and recorded ur fucked.

Sad to say i won't even mention the Police Hummer specs.

I'll give u a *teaser* may it be called that, it does 0-60 in 20 seconds lmao. Nuff' said. Laterz.

[LateNightCable]

I think I saw that cop car performance test article, they really dogged that Hummer. No offense to dogs.

Ever since they stopped building LT-1 Caprices' and Camaros', and now with those goofy " Impalas " the police are only getting slower. I've seen the way cops drive those V6s'. They're going to run those things into the ground long before the warranty is up .

Officer Murrey - " Damn Honda, can't - keep - up! "

[thepolarfoxqx]

which is sad, because the warrantee is 36,000 miles. You'd have a hard time killing it that fast, but i know they do. The 3800 Series II V6 is a good and sturdy powerplant, but the whole dynamics of a front wheel drive transverse mount car don't lend themselves well to severe abuse, nor do they hold up well to durability under hard conditions. You just don't have the room to make things are solid and dissipate enough heat to make it work well.

The Ford Website lists the police interceptor (the ford stock police interceptor makes up over 85% of all police cars sold in 2002) has a 239hp 4.6L SOHC 16V V8 (same one that goes in explorer), a 4spd auto, and 0-60 in 8.3 secconds with an electronically limited 130mph topspeed. Not exactly burning down the house. None of the dodge durango/dakato law enforcement editions, nor the Chevy Silverado/Tahoe/Suburban law enforcement editions are "rated for pursuit". Probably for good reason. GM stopped making the Law enforcement camaro, though it did have 335hp from an LS1 its last 3 years in production. They are excedingly rare. GM's law enforcement site lists an 8.8 seccond 0-60 for a fully equipped impala and a topspeed of 125mph.

Keep in mind police cars are heavier than their stock equivalents, the light rack, lighting, radar and computer equiptment, special glass, car divider, gun rack in the trunk, all add up to over 500lbs of additional weight on the stock car. that doesn't bode well for performance. Sure, you aren't faster than his radio, i'll agree. In a city, that'l screw ya, unless you really are that fast. Out in the country, where I do my hardcore speeding late at night, if he pulls out after me, I not only know i've got better performance than him, but that as fast as his radar is, there's no one to talk to on the other end to stop me up ahead. Don't even slow down

Now a crown vic with a cobra motor, that could do some damage.

Why do they need big cop cars? Why not just use something smaller and better performing, like, well, wait, none of those are american, never mind.

[LateNightCable]

They used to have a hard time cramming the computer equipment into the Crown Vic, and thats' a large car. The Impala must be a sardine can. Large cars are just better suited to the job, but options are scarce, and they aren't about to buy BMWs'.

[thepolarfoxqx]

no, i was honestly thinking the G35 or maybe an altima 3.5SE when i said that. Nissans take abuse well, go fast, aren't too exensisve, and are of good size. The impalas are sufficiently packed as to have awful visability. I went to check them out at our police departments open house (you know where you walk around and introduce yourself as the guy who always gets away), anyhow, the way it looked, if they got in an accident, there are enough things bolted on the dash with hard metal edges, it wouldn't be good.

[LateNightCable]

I've ridden in a current model civilian Impala before, front and back and it was pretty cramped. You wouldn't have to be 6'6" like me to notice. I can't imagine rideing around all day with a divider and a big laptop in that bitch. Well, I can imagine anything, but I wouldn't want to sit there.

I think patriotism plays a big part in why departments use American cars. I think Chevrolet used to sell about 500,000 Caprices' a year to police departments. It would not be cool if all that business went to Japan, even if the cars themselves were built on American soil. Plus American parts are cheap and plenty in comparison.

[skyline_r34v]

Then they should stop being so pissed off cuz they can never catch upto us

I've tried thinkin of ne American Vehicle for under $30k that they could use but i can't think of ne at all.

Guess if they wanna stay "patriotic" then they gonna stay bein outrunned until they change their minds.

[thepolarfoxqx]

is it me, or has LNC gotten taller?

Anyhow, point taken. I'm just shy of 6'4" (though with short legs), and the impala isn't horribly comfortable, then again, the camaro must be unbearable, because i hardly fit.

The front drive platform the impala uses just isn't suited well for that kind of flogging. My local police department has an undercover taurus with the 3.0L OHV V6 with 155hp and a 0-60 of approximately 11 secconds. Who is that going to keep up with? I think I could loose him without even knowing i was doing it.

[LateNightCable]

What do you mean, I've been that tall for years.

I think it's funny how they try to make the police Impalas' in my city look intimidating to hide the fact that it's just a V6 Chevy. Ram bars, which the Caprices' and Crown Vics never had, tinted windows, tons of divider crap on the inside with bars on the rear windows, flashers on the rear windows and rear view mirrors. I tell you, I think the companies who make that stuff are just peddling useless junk at police departments for all it's worth, who inturn don't care since it's only tax payer money.

Whats with these new side ads, it's getting cramped in here. The forum should be free of that crap. Not like too many people come through here anyway.