McLaren F1 - Der ultimative Sportwagen

[Gast Joe Lima]

Bitte.... Ironie deutlicher zeichnen

[Anzeige eBay]

Hallo Stig,

 

kennst du schon McLaren F1 - Der ultimative Sportwagen (Anzeige)? Dort ist vieles zu finden.

 

McLaren Ersatzteile (Anzeige) | McLaren Zubehör (Anzeige)

[Sveni]

Ich hab da auch nochmal eine Frage:

Was ist eigentlich mit den gecrashten McLaren F1 passiert? Wurden die jemals wieder aufgebaut oder wo genau befinden die sich und was soll aus Ihnen noch werden?

Bietet McLaren eigentlich den Service an, dass gecrashte McLaren F1 wieder aufgebaut werden?

[lambodriver]

Der Wagen wurde,soweit ich weiß,ans Werk abgegeben und der Mann hat sich dann einen Neuen geholt.Denke schon das er wieder aufgebaut wurde,in irgendeiner Zeitung war damals ein Bild vom Unfallwagen,sah grausam aus!

[stelli]

McLaren F1 in Flammen

http://www.autogespot.com/item/4163/zeldzame-mclaren-gaat-in-vlammen-op/

[BruNei_carFRe@K]

So etwas bricht mir das Herz.

[Muhviehstar CO]

Nicht nur dir!! Aber er konnte ja wie im Link ersichtilich noch einigermaßen gerettet werden.

[Karl VIP CO]

Gerade gesehen:

http://www.classicdriver.de/de/find/4100_results.asp?lCarID=1789518

[R-U-F CO]

Ich stell mir grad vor, wie der in Frankfurt damit durch die Innenstadt gefahren ist

Wahnsinn wie das aussehen muss. Dieses Auto und eine Straßenzulassung sind immer noch ein absoluter Widerspruch in sich!!

[taunus]

Ich stell mir grad vor, wie der in Frankfurt damit durch die Innenstadt gefahren ist

Wahnsinn wie das aussehen muss. Dieses Auto und eine Straßenzulassung sind immer noch ein absoluter Widerspruch in sich!!

Hat doch was, der Wagen sieht wenigstens nicht nur schnell aus...

[R-U-F CO]

Das muss man ihm lassen - dank BMW

[Anzeige eBay]

Hallo Stig,

 

schau doch mal hier zum Thema Zubehör für McLaren (Anzeige)? Eventuell gibt es dort etwas Passendes.

[CountachQV VIP CO]

Holy shit, wo ist mein EuroMillions Los...

[McLarenfreak]

Fahrbericht McLaren F1 GTR mit Straßenzulassung

von autocar.co.uk

http://www.autocar.co.uk/VideosWallpapers/Videos.aspx?AR=242844&Mode=B

[Gast 308QV]

Ich kann mir beim besten Willen nicht vorstellen, daß das Verkaufsangebot "echt" ist. Ich denke es ist nur ein Teaser.

Der Eigentümer Herr H. aus FFM besitzt noch ganz andere Sportwagen

Wie mir damals 2006 Herr H. erzählte: "Den habe ich schon einmal besessen, leider verkauft und dann hats wieder Jahre gedauert bis ich ihn wieder zurückkaufen konnte....den gebe ich nie mehr her."

Selbst wenn es "Not" tut, da wären noch Veyron, SLR, 599, CGT, Enzo, 2 x GT40, MC 12, Murci, Gallardo, EB 110, Pagani, CLK GTR......usw.

Auf dem Bildchen ist nur ein Bruchteil seiner Spielzeuge zu sehen.

BTW, sein Sohn Dennis war/ist auch ein sehr erfolgreicher Rennfahrer in der Ferrari Trofeo/Challenge.

[Muhviehstar CO]

Du kannst ruhig Namen nennen, denn Herr Hübner hat das Ganze ja in der AMS veröffentlicht. Artikel: http://www.sps-performance.de/ximages/122760_revloversa.pdf

Auch der Vater pflegt ein besonderes Verhältnis zum McLaren F1. Geradezu festgebissen hat er sich am ehemals schnellsten Serienauto der Welt. Erst gekauft, dann verkauft, insgesamt fünf Mal.

Der gelbe Enzo ist noch immer im Besitz von Hans Saturski.

Dennis Hübner fuhr damals Speedster Turbo - sympatisch

Hier noch ein Video zum F1 GTR auf der Hübner'schen Internetpräsenz: http://revlovers.com/?l=3&SCS_media_269[id]=32

[knighty]

Hab grad gesehen der Wagen steht bei Mirbach zum Verkauf.

[bmw m1]

super tolles Auto. Würde nur gerne mal wissen, wieviel der ca. kostet, heisst ja bei solchen Autos immer nur: auf Anfrage

[Atombender]

Der weiße F1 ist einfach nur Sex auf Rädern. Wenn McLaren nen echten Nachfolger irgendwann mal rausbringt, bitte mit der gleichen Karosse, an dem Design gibt's nichts zu verbessern.

Der Wagen von Mr. Bean soll der vom Top Gear Drag-Race mit nem Veyron. Dachte immer der war ein Abschreiber wie der vom Pitschesrieder.

[R-U-F CO]

Wahnsinns Bild. Alles man was halt so braucht

[Forex CO]

Der Wagen von Mr. Bean soll der vom Top Gear Drag-Race mit nem Veyron. Dachte immer der war ein Abschreiber wie der vom Pitschesrieder.

Bei weitem nicht: siehe hier.

[Andy962]

Der weiße F1 ist einfach nur Sex auf Rädern. Wenn McLaren nen echten Nachfolger irgendwann mal rausbringt, bitte mit der gleichen Karosse, an dem Design gibt's nichts zu verbessern.

Der Nachfolger soll wohl so aussehen! McLaren MP4-12C

Quelle: www.gt-eins.at

[Andy962]

Hier noch mal der Text von gt-eins.at:

Ron Dennis, ehemaliger Teambesitzer des McLaren F1-Teams, hat nach dem Rückzug aus dem F1-Geschäft neue Pläne. Zusammen mit einer Investorengruppe aus dem Mittleren Osten hat er seine Einkünfte aus dem Verkauf der F1-Anteile in die McLaren Automotive Gruppe investiert, die in der vergangenen Woche einen neuen Supersportwagen vorstellte. Der MP4-12C könnte dabei auch ein neues Kapitel im GT-Sport für McLaren aufschlagen, wie Dennis nun der Times gegenüber in einem Interview mitteilte.

Der MP4-12C ist ein von einem selbst gefertigten 3,8l Biturbo befeuerter Zweisitzer, der mit einem 7-Gang Getriebe, einem Karbon-Chassis und Flügeltüren ausgestattet ist. Für einen Preis von 150.000 Britischen Pfund soll der Wagen zudem mit allen aktuellen technischen Features für die Innenausstattung daher kommen. 2015 will Dennis gemäß seines Masterplans für McLaren Automotive zwei zusätzliche Modelle anbieten. In einer für uns nicht uninteressanten Randnotiz des Interviews ist auch von Einsätzen bei GT-Rennen zu lesen. „Wir werden Rennsportmeisterschaften mit Rennvarianten dieses Wagens beschicken“, so Dennis, der allerdings offen ließ, welche Klasse (GT1?/2?/3?) und welchen Zeithorizont er sich dabei vorstellt.

Schon 1994 hatte Dennis einen ersten erfolgreichen Ausflug in Geschäft mit Supersportwagen unternommen. Vom 1,5 Mio Dollar teuren McLaren F1 wurden zwar nur 100 Exemplare gebaut, davon erblickten aber 28 Wagen als Rennfahrzeuge das Licht. Diese schrieben in der BPR, dem Vorläufer der FIA-GT Meisterschaft, Renngeschichte und gewannen auch das 24 Stunden Rennen von Le Mans 1995. Ein Ende fand die Karriere des F1 erst 1998, als das Formel-1-Team zur Mercedes-Werksmannschaft aufstieg und somit der von einem BMW-V12 Treibsatz betriebene GT nicht mehr opportun war. Mit dem nun angeplanten Wagen könnte der Name McLaren auf lange Sicht in die Rennszene zurückkehren.

[Muhviehstar CO]

@Andi962: Atombender hat extra "echten Nachfolger" geschrieben. Der MP4-12C ist kein echter F1-Nachfolger. Dieser soll aber irgendwann noch erscheinen (hoffentlich).

[Andy962]

ahhh ja, missverständnis, sorry!!

[Atombender]

Bei weitem nicht: siehe hier.

Das 2. Bild ist einfach nur geil, Mr. Bean muss man einfach gern haben.

Der gleiche Wagen dann in Aktion unter sengender Sonne (wurd wahrscheinlich schon gepostet, der Vollständigkeit halber). Klasse Farbe.

[McLarenfreak]

Mclaren bringt für den Mclaren F1 2010 ein Upgrade

63 kg leichter, Leistungssteigerung auf 700 PS etc.

McLaren F1 2010 upgrade package

20st July 2009. Today Mclaren Automotive announces a major upgrade package for it's legendary McLaren F1 road

car. Frank Stephensen McLaren Automotive Design chief: “Through this upgrade package we have taken the highly

advanced framework of the F1 and updated it in a number of key areas that have seen major advances over the

years, providing our customers with the final and ultimate evolution of the McLaren F1.”

The Engine

The first area to see a significant upgrade is the F1's famous BMW S70/2 V12. The revised engine, type number

updated to S70/4, sees it's capacity grow to 6121 cc as a result of an increased bore from 86 to 86.4 mm. Further

changes include larger yet lighter pistons, lighter conrods, a raised compression to 12.0:1 from 11.0:1, redesigned

cylinder head, new inlet and exhaust valves, new camshafts with variable valve timing now also on the exhaust

side, a new and completely reprogrammed ECU as well as other smaller improvements. The result of these

changes is an engine that now produces 491 lb.ft at 5300 rpm compared to 480 lb.ft before and an increased

output of 691 bhp at 8200 rpm over the 618 bhp (627 PS) of the original while maintaining it's smooth running

characteristics and in the mean time improving emissions and it's already proven efficiency. Frank Stephensen:

“Countless engine development ideas continuously circulate engineering departments, however we feel the offered

upgrade provides the best balance between strongly improved performance and maintaining durability, best

chassis compatibility and reasonable use of development resources.” The 6-speed transmission has remained

unchanged. Continuing: “The existing transmission works fine, our customers value it and thanks to it's new higher

revving engine it now has exactly the right ratio to reach it's full top speed potential.”

Ceramic composite brake system

Another major improvement with the 2010 upgrade package is the first ever use of a ceramic composite brake

system on the McLaren F1 road car. Mr. Stephensen: “While a highly desired feature during it's conception,

composite brake technology was not considered mature enough for initial adoption on the F1.” The ceramic 380

mm front and 320 mm rear discs with respectively 6 and 4 pot callipers provide extreme stopping power without

fading and reduce the unsprung weight by approximately 40 kg. “On a light vehicle as the F1 such a unsprung

weight reduction has a very profound influence on the cars cornering performance and ride quality.” he adds.

The Chassis

The 2010 upgrade package further features a completely newly developed adaptive engine mount system. Frank

Stephensen: “The V12 engine in the McLaren F1 is a substantial part of it's total mass and it's dynamics have a

very significant influence on both the ride comfort as well as on cornering performance. The newly developed

adaptive engine mount system allows us to avoid compromises we had to make with the original design, further

reducing engine vibrations during every day driving and enabling us to much better contain the V12's significant

mass in cornering.” Not only is their a new adaptive engine mount system, but the dampers have been made

adaptive as well, another first on the McLaren F1. Mr Stephensen: “The drastically reduced unsprung mass, new

18-inch magnesium wheels, new tires as well as both the new adaptive engine mount and damper systems have

prompted a major redesign of the total suspension system, raising the F1's cornering performance and handling to

new levels while still maintaining it's well established ride quality.”

The Bodywork

With the upgrade the McLaren F1 also sees a few changes to it's bodywork. The most important ones being the

removal of the automatic brake and balance aerofoil system as well as the active underbody air management

system. Mr. Stephensen: “While in itself very effective systems, we wanted to focus on improving weight, weight

placement and aerodynamics. Through several evaluations we found that improvements of various technologies

allowed us to achieve the goals we set through more conventional means thus lowering weight, the centre of

gravity and polar moment of yaw.” The weight reducing measures have resulted in a substantial weight loss of 63

kg, with the total weight now being down to 1077 kg. Further detail attention to the aerodynamics has also allowed

the drag coefficient to be reduced to 0.31. Together with the F1's small frontal area of 1.79 square meters this

results in an extremely low air resistance index of only 0.55 helping the F1 to it's amazing top speed potential.

Performance

The described changes to the McLaren F1 have caused it's cornering grip to rise to well over 1.0 G and power to

weight ratio to improve with 18% to 478 bhp / ton. As a result the 0-60 time has dropped to 2.9 s, the quarter mile

is now done in 10.1 seconds at 144 mph and top speed is now estimated to be significantly faster than 250 mph.*

* Only on approved tyres, final data to be disclosed end of 2009.

More information including images, compatibility with existing packages as well as pricing and availability for the

2010 McLaren F1 upgrade package can be provided by our nearest McLaren Authorised Service Centre.

Interview with two key people behind the McLaren F1 2010 upgrade package

At the McLaren Technology Centre McLaren Automotive in Woking, Surrey (UK), sales and marketing director Rob

Lindley and Design chief Frank Stephensen answer a few questions about the backgrounds and considerations

behind the new McLaren F1 2010 upgrade package.

Why did you decide to offer this upgrade package?

FS: Because it was technically possible and economically viable.

RL: Our customers have always inquired for various technical upgrades, we found ourselves in a position to have a

unique window of opportunity for making a major improvement on our already legendary car and that opportunity

was simply too good to let pass.

Why is it offered now, quite a long time after the cars launch and so close to the launch of it's successor?

FS: The core strengths of the McLaren F1, it's layout, dimensions, carbon monocoque and engine still are state of

the art even today, yet lot of technologies that now allow us to work around a few design decisions we had to make

with the original design, have only recently become available. Offering this package at this point in time also

allowed us to share a lot of development work with what was already planned for the F1's successor. In fact without

the shared development approach it wouldn't have been possible for us to offer this upgrade package.

Aren't you afraid the upgrade package will threaten sales of the P11, the F1's successor?

RL: No not at all, the F1 was produced in only very limited numbers and as such will not negatively impact any

other car we offer or will offer in the future.

What we were your goals for this upgrade?

RL: Our goal was to give our customers the option of a final and ultimate evolution of their McLaren F1 road car.

FS: We wanted to take the still unrivalled core strengths of the F1 and by use of the latest technology undo it of all

the originally unavoidable compromises necessary to make it a super car for the road in stead of a racecar with

limited usability in the real world. Our secondary goal will become clear probably before the end of this year. (subtle

smile).

Many see the McLaren F1 as a legend, a piece of art even by the hand of Gordon Murray, in that light was it

a controversial decision to make such far reaching changes to the car?

FS: Of course many within McLaren view the car exactly the same way, it is thé McLaren road car, the car we are

best known for. However, McLaren is also first and foremost a company about engineering and innovation and as

engineers we always strife to improve.

RL: Most of our customers take a keen interest into all the various technical aspects of our cars, so most are really

thrilled about this new upgrade. Of course our customers can also keep their cars in the original spec and I can

fully understand that as well, our service to all our customers will remain equally excellent regardless of

specification.

How many people you think will opt for this package?

RL: Of course we have asked our client base before deciding on this upgrade package and we feel confident the

vast majority of them will opt for the upgrade.

Is it possible for customers to only adopt a selection of the upgrades from the package?

FS: Yes, in fact some of our customers have already previously opted for various minor upgrade packages and as a

result automatically will only get part of the 2010 upgrade package. That said for all the standard spec cars it is of

course relatively more expensive the fewer upgrade options you take and we feel the total package is more than

the some of it's parts and therefore we feel strongly in advising our customers to choose the complete upgrade.

Were there any changes made to the exterior design of the car?

RL: No, we feel that the McLaren F1's exterior design is of timeless quality and felt absolutely no need whatsoever

to make any changes to it.

Can you tell a bit more about the various technical improvements?

FS: Well most of the detailed technical information will be first made available directly to our customers through our

Authorised Service Centres, but I can't tell you how exited we are about how the different updates together have

transformed the dynamic capabilities of our 2010 spec prototype during testing, it really takes the platform to a

whole new level. That said, more details and full specifications will be provided in short notice.

It must've been difficult to cost efficiently develop these changes for such a small number of cars?

RL: Yes, many people think that it is easy for us to offer all sort of improvements since some cars are now worth

over 2 million pounds. However with only 64 cars ever produced the total amount of packages we can sell is very

limited so we had to be very prudent with the resources available.

FS: Development and test work for instance on the adaptive dampers, engine mounts and the ceramic brakes

could be shared with the P11 project. Also through the years a lot of engine upgrade ideas have surfaced ranging

from direct injection to a magnesium / aluminium crankcase to even a high performance version of BMW's larger

N73 V12 engine. However BMW already had done a lot of the necessary development for the engine upgrade for

several other projects and therefore we were able to offer this normally too costly engine update within the scope of

this upgrade package.

With the engine of the F1 coming from BMW and being so heavily involved with Mercedes, that must've

caused some tensions?

RL: Not everything is always as it seems (smiles), but no, that was not an issue.

So we can expect to see some of these technologies on the P11 as well?

RL: Some yes (smiles again), but I can't share much information on that at this point in time.

Mark Harrison

Head of PR of McLaren Automotive.

McLaren F1 Roadcar – 2010 UP Specification

Body

Length 4287 / 168.78 mm / inches

Width 1820 / 71.65 mm / inches

Height 1140 / 44.88 mm / inches

Wheelbase 2718 / 107.01 mm / inches

Front Overhang 970 / 38.18 mm / inches

Rear Overhang 599 / 23.58 mm / inches

Front Track 1568 / 61.73 mm / inches

Rear Track 1472 / 57.95 mm / inches

Luggage Capacity - 2

occupants (VDA) 283 / 10 litres / cu ft.

Luggage Capacity - 3

occupants (VDA) 227 / 8 litres / cu ft.

Fuel Tank Capacity 90 litres

Kerb Weight 1077 / 2375 kg / lbs

Weight Distribution 41.1/58.9 F/R

Drag Coefficient (Cd ) 0.31

Drag index (CdA) 0.55

Performance*

Top Speed **

0-60 mph 2.9 seconds

0-100 mph 5.5 seconds

0-150 mph 10.7 seconds

0-200 mph 21.7 seconds

1/4 mile 10.1 seconds @ 232 / 144 km/h / mph

Standing km 18.9 seconds @ 303 / 188 km/h / mph

* 2010 UP spec prototype data.

** To be disclosed end of 2009.

Powertrain

Type Number S 70/4

Cylinder Arrangement V12

Cylinder Angle 60 degrees

Power Output 515 / 700 / 691 kW / PS / bhp @ 8200 rpm

Max. Torque 666 / 491 Nm / lb.ft @ 5300 rpm

Engine Capacity 6121 / 373.3 cc / in3

Valves/Cylinder 4

Bore 86.4 / 3.40 mm / inches

Stroke 87.0 / 3.42 mm / inches

Compression Ratio 12.0:1

Ignition system Transistorised system with twelve individual coils

Induction system 12 single throttle valves, carbon composite airbox

Valvetrain Chain driven double overhead camshaft with continuously variable valve timing on

intake and exhaust valves.

Engine Block Cast aluminium 60 deg V12

Cylinder heads 4 valves per cylinder cast aluminium alloy

Flywheel Aluminium

Cam Carriers/Covers Cast magnesium

Lubrication System Dry sump magnesium casting with scavenge pumps and one pressure pump

Advised Fuel 98 RON unleaded (95 RON possible at reduced output).

Oil 5W40/10W60

Cooling System Twin aluminium water radiators and oil/water heat exchanger.

Fuel system Flexible safety fuel cell with in-tank high pressure pump

Electrics 12V system with high capacity battery & 160 amp alternator, Chassis ECU, Engine

ECU, DC/DC converter for heated glass

Engine mounting Dynamically through adaptive engine mounts

Transmission Transverse unit with high speed bevel gears and spur final drive

All synchro constant mesh 6 Speed

Limited slip differential

Fan assisted air / oil radiator - pumped lubrication system

1st Gear Ratio 3.23/8.7

2nd Gear Ratio 2.19/12.7

3rd Gear Ratio 1.71/16.7

4th Gear Ratio 1.39/20.0

5th Gear Ratio 1.16/24.0

6th Gear Ratio 0.93/30.0

Final Drive Ratio 2.37:1

Clutch Triple plate Carbon/Carbon

200mm (7.87") diameter

Remote actuation (hydraulic)

Steering Unassisted rack and pinion

Two turns lock to lock

Chassis

Front Suspension Double wishbones, Ground Plane shear Centre sub-frames, light alloy adaptive

dampers/ co-axial coil springs, anti-roll bar

Rear Suspension Double wishbones, inclined Axis Shear mounting system, light alloy adaptive

dampers/ co-axial coil springs, toe-in / toe-out control links

Front Tyre 235/40 ZR 18

Front Wheel 9 x 18 inches

Rear Tyre 315/40 ZR 18

Rear Wheel 11.5 x 18 inches

Front Calliper Type 6 pot monobloc light alloy calliper

Rear Calliper Type 4 pot monobloc light alloy calliper

Front Brake disc Type Ventilated ceramic composite

Rear Brake disc Type Ventilated ceramic composite

Front Brake Disc diameter 380 / 14.96 mm / inches

Rear Brake Disc diameter 320 / 12.6 mm / inches

Front Brake Disc Thickness 32 / 1.26 mm / inches

Rear Brake Disc Thickness 32 / 1.26 mm / inches

Turns Lock-to-Lock 2

Parking Brake Automatic computerised control system

Brake Cooling Automatic computerised control system

Turning Circle 12.6 / 41.4 m / ft