Veyron tested

[mv]

German journalists from Autobild were lucky enough to get their hands on the veyron prior to anyone else.

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Hallo mv,

 

kennst du schon Veyron tested (Anzeige)? Dort ist vieles zu finden.

 

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[Thunf]

Feel a bit sorry for VW. Alright, they will achieve extreme figures - but it is still a car not designed intentionally to go very fast. Cw of 0.36 with no downforce in highspeed. The Koeniggsegg have Cw 0.29 and downforce on top of that. With more power the Koeniggsegg easily increases speed as the additional airresistant in those high speeds stop the objects more than one can imagine. So with a more powerful engine in CCR, how much will VW have to spend to compensate the high Cw value of Veyron?!

The only thing really cool about this car is, my personal view, the robust fourwheeldrive, engine and gearbox and cooling. But it's in the wrong shape. Cooling would be suffering in a different car shape perhaps, but it would not need this power as Cw would be lower. But Cw usually increases when more cooling meats the air. This car is built for accelerations to 350, impressive accelerations! But it's not a topspeed candidate at all; if it is, not for long.

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The engine produces 3000 hp but it takes 1000 hp to cool it, another 1000 hp get lost by heat and gas emissions and the remaining 1001 bhp are available at the wheels.

Oh yeah sure, that's one way to break it down Wolfgang. Sounds like a slight bit of crap to me. This car is so pointless, there's no getting around that.

They should feel good about themselves for about 5 minutes, and what selling countless economy cars for decades has afforded them to do then get back to work making vehicles that are actually of some use to someone.

Take what they've learned, then scale it down. Otherwise it's a waste.

[bleh]

They should feel good about themselves for about 5 minutes, and what selling countless economy cars for decades has afforded them to do then get back to work making vehicles that are actually of some use to someone.

really good point.... kinda sad.

[GIR]

This car is a fine example on why brute force never works. We need a fast car, lets get the biggest engine we can slap on some huge turbos and build a body around it.

Oh yeah forgot, the gearbox can't handle that much power. No problem lets just make it bigger and heavier.

Damn the car is melting because of all the heat generated by that huge engine. No problem again. Let's get the biggest, baddest and heaviest cooling system we can squeeze that in there somewhere and out problems will be gone.

I'm sure that this car was buildt by marketing and not by engineers. Infact I'm sure that at one point the engineers at VW went on strike so the marketing people had to complete it themselves.

[mv]

AMS chief editor Bernd Ostmann has been the first mag tester that had the pleasure to ride 400+ in the EB 16.4 Bugatti Veyron at VW test course Ehra-Lessien...

some impressions what he said about that day...

the track has been kinda damp in the morning, kinda scary at 400km/h, so 111m/sec without crash barries like in Nardo, well not really, rear wing setup to 2° so 40 to 50kg downforce at rear axle engineers promise that this´ll be enough for a smooth ride even on wet pavement...

through the first corner with 220 easily - absolute brutal accelerating up to 300 within seconds a light left hand bend with 380 - looking into the rear mirror - just an enormous spray but just like they told the EB16.4 is a very smooth car to ride even at that speeds...

the sepcial Michelin tires are working just perfect, they were tested up to 500km/h and before a high speed run they require 3bar pressure - this is one of the points the driver has to go through with a check list and a second car key to unlock the high speed mode - here the two front diffusor flaps are closed, the rear wing selects 2° and the body is lowered to 6.5cm front and 7cm rear a sepecial system is monitoring everything and when only one parameter is not ok the car automatically switches to handling-mode...

the first run ended with "only" 380km/h - the car switched to handling because the exhaust temperatures reached critical 970°C - cooling down the car at 220 or 5000rpm in 4th gear...

the weather gets better, it´s much warmer now and engineers force the AMS team to "act" - next run 398km/h - this time it´s the driver´s fault as he has enabled the A/C on the previous cooling lap costing some km/h on that fast run - so again a cooling lap and then full concentration on the last run with nearly 400 the rpm showed 5800 in 7th gear, now it shows 6200rpm at a speed of 402km/h ...

braking is again a new experience 31.4m (!!!) from 100 to 0 with a 1950kg car...

on the other hand acceleration is also outstanding - measured 25m long black rubber from all four wheels after the standard sprint with launch-control - result: 2.5sec to 100 and 7.3 to 200 :shock:

on a side note - at 400 km/h the EB16.4 needs ONE liter fuel for ONE kilometer so they calculated every 12min a gas station on autobahn when driving 400

Credit goes to st-anger from jabbasworld.

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[quote=mv

on a side note - at 400 km/h the EB16.4 needs ONE liter fuel for ONE kilometer so they calculated every 12min a gas station on autobahn when driving 400 :wink

Look out hybrids! I think you've met your match

[GIR]

WOW! Look at all the smoke coming out of the cooling system?! All you need todo is fit a high pressure nozzle on the outlet and some neon and the car is P.I.M.P.

[Thunf]

Wow, that Bugatti does not look like the concept! This look better!

Now I understand that it is able to reach higher speeds.

[mv]

WOW! Look at all the smoke coming out of the cooling system?! All you need todo is fit a high pressure nozzle on the outlet and some neon and the car is P.I.M.P.

Smoke from the cooling system ??? Did you mean the spray behind the car ? The track was wet/damp.

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Hallo mv,

 

schau doch mal hier zum Thema Bugatti (Anzeige)? Eventuell gibt es dort etwas Passendes.

 

Der V16 Motor zum Selberbauen (Anzeige) ist auch genial.

[taunus]

Already seen this ?

http://media.autobild.de/video/E/d5a572a5f082f567eba5a0d9586567de-1.avi

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VW/Audi already has Bentley as a traditional premium luxury make, but they would have been much wiser to create a more "normal" and down to Earth pure luxury car in the name of Bugatti, rather than this pompous and over wraught speed bomb which amounts to nothing more than a flashy and very expensive way to burn a whole lot of fuel.

In it's day, Bugatti was a brand of excess. In translating that formula for the modern age, VW should have resorted to excess of a more eco friendly and useful nature. Such as using an excess of state of the art alternative fuel technology.

The Veryron is brand new, but already behind the times.

[crimplover]

VW/Audi already has Bentley as a traditional premium luxury make, but they would have been much wiser to create a more "normal" and down to Earth pure luxury car in the name of Bugatti, rather than this pompous and over wraught speed bomb which amounts to nothing more than a flashy and very expensive way to burn a whole lot of fuel.

In it's day, Bugatti was a brand of excess. In translating that formula for the modern age, VW should have resorted to excess of a more eco friendly and useful nature. Such as using an excess of state of the art alternative fuel technology.

The Veryron is brand new, but already behind the times.

I couldn't agree with you more LNC!