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article from the autocar :

Audi will treble the number of coupés it sells in the next three years – led by this stunning new TT. It will be joined by a new range of larger two-doors, as part of on-going efforts by the German car maker to project a sportier image.

The coupé expansion, masterminded by Audi chairman Martin Winterkorn, kicks off next year with the second-generation TT – a car described to Autocar as ‘encapsulating all the style and quality of the original, but with the dynamics and space to head its class’.

Joining it in Audi showrooms before long will be production versions of Audi’s well-received Nuvolari and Le Mans concept cars – both of which have now been granted internal codenames, indicating that a business case has been approved and development is underway.

Audi TT: Codename AU353

Audi’s new TT will be unveiled at the September 2005 Frankfurt Motor Show, with UK coupé sales scheduled for April 2006 – the replacement roadster is due around a year later.

As Autocar’s artist’s impressions (above) show, the new model’s appearance remains faithful to the classic Freeman Thomas-penned lines of today’s car, with only mild changes to the detailing and slightly increased dimensions for extra interior room.

‘The TT is a style icon,’ an Ingolstadt source close to Audi design boss Walter de’Silva told Autocar. ‘It is still influencing the design of cars six years after its launch. We don’t see any need to bring radical changes to the car. Future incarnations will retain all the essential ingredients of today’s model.’

Distinguishing the new TT from today’s car will be a fresh front end dominated by Audi’s new shield grille. The rear is likely to receive a retractable spoiler, similar to that used on the Porsche Boxster, to provide added downforce.

The old TT was based around many of the mechanicals of the previous VW Golf, and so the second-generation model borrows the Volkswagen Group’s PQ35 platform – the same structure that’s used by the latest VW Golf, Audi A3, Seat Altea and Skoda Octavia.

An earlier plan was to use a modified Audi A4 platform, according to an Ingolstadt

engineer who points to the 3-series-derived BMW Z4 and C-class-based Mercedes SLK as inspiration. However, the idea was scrapped on packaging grounds: the A4’s longitudinal engine layout and Torsen four-wheel-drive system is unsuited to the TT’s compact dimensions and unusual proportions.

As a result, the next TT will benefit from a series of chassis upgrades that should make it a much sharper drive. Chief among them is the switch from torsion beam rear suspension to a more contemporary multi-link arrangement – a luxury previously only afforded on four-wheel-drive versions of the TT. Other changes include a slightly longer wheelbase and wider tracks, an electro-mechanical steering set-up and bigger brakes.

As with today’s TT, the new model will offer a choice of front-wheel drive or quattro four-wheel drive – the latter using a beefed-up version of today’s multi-plate clutch system. Power will come from a range of new transversely mounted in-line four-cylinder and narrow-angle V6 engines. They should include existing 150bhp naturally aspirated and soon-to-be-introduced 200bhp turbocharged versions of Audi’s 2.0-litre FSI unit. A third version, with added turbo boost pressure and up to 230bhp, is said to be under development.

Also expected from the start of sales is a reworked version of Audi’s 3.2-litre V6, with FSI direct injection technology. The engine is claimed to produce around 255bhp in naturally aspirated form, giving the future TT V6 a slight power boost.

It doesn’t end there, however. In a move aimed at matching the Mercedes SLK 55 AMG and a much-rumoured M version of the BMW Z4, Audi is working on a hot TT RS. It runs a twin-turbocharged version of the upgraded 3.2-litre V6 with up to 350bhp – the same engine earmarked to power the forthcoming RS3. Tipped to see the light of day in 2007, the hottest of the new TT models should be good for 0-60mph in less than 5.5sec and a top speed limited to 155mph.

Alongside a standard six-speed manual gearbox, Audi will offer its new six-speed DSG (Direct Shift Gearbox) as an option on all but the entry level model. It remains to be seen whether a six-speed torque-converter automatic like that used in the A3 will also be offered, though it seems unlikely given the DSG’s ability to offer both manual and

automatic shifting.

Audi Nuvolari: Codename AU564

The last of Audi’s new two-door models to arrive will be a production version of the stunning Nuvolari concept car first shown at last year’s Geneva Motor Show. Expect only detail changes from the show car, as revealed in our gallery.

Targeted directly at the recently introduced BMW 6-series and top-end Merc CLK, Audi’s new four-seater coupé is planned for sale in early 2007 with prices starting below Ł40,000 in the UK. A soft-top convertible is also planned for the end of 2007.

Eschewing the ASF (Aluminium Space Frame) construction of the concept car, the road-going Nuvolari – not the name it is expected to carry into production – is based around a more cost-effective unitary body construction.

The bodyshell of Audi’s stylish new coupé will be fashioned predominantly from high-tensile steel though, like the new A6, it’s expected to get an aluminium bonnet, bootlid and doors to save weight.

Underneath is what insiders describe as a ‘hybrid’ platform with a mixture of components from the facelifted A4, due later this year, and the new A6. ‘It’s the only way we could make the business case stand up,’ said a source privy to detailed information on Audi’s future model programme.

The new car will use an aluminium intensive four-link (front) and multi-link (rear)

suspension, with the possibility of air springs in top-end models if early packaging problems can be solved. Alongside standard front-wheel drive, Audi plans four-wheel-drive versions offering a more rearward-biased drive split than current quattro models.

‘There’s a programme underway to ensure future four-wheel-drive models provide a sense of heightened dynamics,’ said our source. ‘We want to imbue our cars with a sportier feel.’

Among the engines Audi has in store for its new coupé are 255bhp 3.2-litre V6 and 380bhp 4.2-litre V8 units – both with FSI direct-injection technology. Also in the pipeline is a storming RS variant of Ingolstadt’s new mid-range coupé – tipped to run a naturally aspirated 5.0-litre V10, also with FSI. With a reported 500bhp and four-wheel drive, it should make life hard for the upcoming BMW M6 and Mercedes-Benz CLK 55 AMG.

Audi Le Mans: Codename AU714

At the top of Audi’s coupé pyramid is the spectacular mid-engined Le Mans (see gallery). Revealed in concept form at last year’s Frankfurt Motor Show, the low slung two-seater is scheduled to start production at Audi’s Neckarsulm factory in Germany in late 2006. UK sales get underway six months later.

Echoing the Nuvolari strategy, the Le Mans’ styling will change little from the show car, although the front end will have to be raised to meet future pedestrian safety rules. Being based around Lamborghini’s Gallardo supercar, the Le Mans shares the same aluminium spaceframe and much of its mechanical package, including its four-wheel-drive system. Suspension is via classic double wishbones at each corner, with new electro-magnetic dampers that constantly alter the level of stiffness depending on road conditions.

A pet project of Winterkorn’s, the Le Mans has been conceived to take on no less a car than the iconic Porsche 911. To equip it for the task, Audi will fit its mid-engined flagship with at least two different engines. A 380bhp 4.2-litre V8 and 500bhp 5.0-litre V10 – both with FSI – are anticipated, but not yet officially confirmed. The concept car’s 610bhp twin-turbo 5.0-litre V10 has been ruled out, as it would encroach too much on the Lamborghini donor car.

Autocar understands that the V8 Le Mans will go on sale first, with a V10 range-topper following around 18 months later. As for guide prices, expect a 911-rivalling Ł58,000 starter cost, stretching up to around Ł90,000 for the V10.

One reason to stagger the launch is to get the quality right. ‘The Le Mans marks Audi’s first real foray into the supercar ranks, and it is important that the quality lives up to the rest of the range,’ said our source.

Component suppliers point towards an annual run of between 7500 and 10,000 cars. That’s a drop in the ocean by Audi standards, but the real role of the Le Mans is to provide a halo for the rest of the range.

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New images concerning the TT came up in the autobild.

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There are also a few words regarding its engine line-up.

The AWD versions are first to come-2006

- 2,0l TFSI 200hp / 280nm in between 1800-5000rpm

- 3.2l V6 250hp / 320nm (as in the current TT v6)

S-line and RS-line to come in 2007

- S-line: 3.2l v6 FSI 300hp / 350nm

- RS-line: rumoured 3.2l V6 biturbo

The FWD version will appear in 2008

- 1,8l TFSI 150hp / 250nm

- 2,0l TDI 160hp / 350nm :???:

I think that new TT looks great. I would have liked to have seen maybe a bit more power, but obviously the 3.2L engine is a great powerplant. My fear is that this new, larger TT might go from porky to all out overweight. The 3.2L V6 with the instant ingagence transmission and AWD is very heavy for it's size. I hope they keep that under control. Nuvolari looks good, i'm not sure if it's SO good as not to play seccond fiddle to the likes of CLK, XK, 6-Series, and Maserati Coupe/Spyder. My guess is it will fill a niche very well, it will balance art, refinement and performance the way audi seems to do in most market segments.

The LeMans bugs me. It's just too many cars on that platform, a platform a bit too big and heavy for a car of those aspirations. I'm sure they'll do a great job detailing it, audi always does, but i'm not sure what they hope to do with this car? It will be a cool car sure, but it just seems to me like it will end up like Acura NSX did, a very interesting, very good car that just never totally makes it because it is lacking the intangible something its bona-fide super car competition has.

The thing about the NSX is that it was very accessible, plus it had a good dose of Honda practicality built into it. Exotica is personified by a certain wild, " don't give a shit " approach to a car's development, and also an exclusivity that even the NSX was too down to Earth to have. Not having the craziest exotic appeal was nothing against the little NSX.

That grill seems way too funky for the small TT. And the LeMans is a halo car? My reservation about that is, halo cars rarely shine their light upon their family members. Even when the buying public buys into it. About as close as a Chevy Monte Carlo is to a Nascar.

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update concerning the le mans quattro : (taken from the autocar)

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It might look like a Lamborghini Gallardo, but beneath the bodywork of this prototype sit the components for Audi’s upcoming Le Mans supercar. Codenamed AU714, the new two-seater should arrive in September 2006, prior to going on sale in the UK early in 2007. The price is tipped to start at around Ł68,000, and eventually extend to Ł85,000 for a Porsche 911 Turbo-chasing 5.2-litre V10 model due in 2008.

As these exclusive photographs taken at the Nürburgring circuit in Germany reveal, the Le Mans is based heavily on the Gallardo. Among the key components shared by both cars are the aluminium spaceframe, high-tensile steel floorpan, lightweight wiring loom, brake system and intricate double wishbone suspension. However, Audi sources say

a series of changes, including unique engines and electromagnetic dampers, will provide the Le Mans with a ‘vastly different character’ to the Gallardo’s.

The production version of Ingolstadt’s new performance flagship will ditch the aggressive look of Sant’Agata’s entry-level model for a more harmoniously styled

aluminium bodyshell similar to that seen on the Le Mans concept car from last year’s Frankfurt Motor Show.

Audi is working on two naturally aspirated powerplants to replace the show car’s 610bhp twin-turbocharged 5.0-litre V10. Early models are likely to receive an updated version

of the German car maker’s 4.2-litre V8. With direct injection and a raft of internal tweaks aimed at lowering reciprocating masses, the new engine is said to push out a gutsy 425bhp (up from 339bhp in the S4).

Also under development at the company’s Quattro GmbH facilities is a brand-new

40-valve 5.2-litre V10 engine. Unrelated to the 5.0-litre V10 in the Gallardo, it uses the same 88mm cylinder spacing and compact chain-drive system as Audi’s existing 90-degree V8.

The target output for the new engine is 520bhp – a solid 100bhp more than today’s Porsche 911 Turbo. Power will be sent to all four wheels via a second-generation DSG (dual-clutch) gearbox, re-engineered to handle the Le Mans’ high torque loads and provide even faster shifts. But although the new gearbox is virtually complete, Autocar’s sources say Audi board members are undecided over whether to go with a six-speed arrangement or an even more complex seven-speeder in a bid to match BMW’s new seven-speed SMG (Sequential Manual Transmission), as fitted to the new M5.

Along with new driveline, Audi is also preparing a new active-damping system for

the Le Mans. Dubbed Magnesport, it uses electromagnetic impulses to continuously alter the viscosity of the oil in the dampers, allowing for both Sporting and Comfort modes.

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On the other hand in the V10 le mans quattro you would be able to get a "lambo" with even more power (than the current gallardo,but by that time the v10 LMQ arrives its power will be significantly increased for sure), DSG and the magnesport for lesser money :)

By the way the autocar has also recently reported that the new TT is going to get a 2.0l FSI biturbo developing 280 horses...it is probably about to be positioned between the regular V6 and the S-version (as above)

There is also a rumour that this engine could be used even earlier in the current TT as a final sporty version just a few months before it gets replaced by the successor.

On the other hand in the V10 le mans quattro you would be able to get a "lambo" with even more power (than the current gallardo,but by that time the v10 LMQ arrives its power will be significantly increased for sure), DSG and the magnesport for lesser money :)

This is where the politics come into play. Lamborghini may be under the hand of Audi, but can you really see them building an Audi that out performs the Gallardo for around half the price? It would put a big damper on the consumer appeal of Lamborghini's entry level car - which is intended to be a money maker. Not only that, but I'm not so sure the Gallardo is slated for a performance increase anytime soon, since they're already bumping the performance of the Murcielago in order to separate it from the current Gallardo which is almost as fast as the Murci.

Either way, I don't see the production LeMans Quattro being anywhere near as wild and exotic as the concept, with the price that they're aiming for. It would be surprising if anything more than eight cylinders and twin turbos found their way under the hood for that money.

I'm sure the VAG will handle it somehow...besides i dont think the v10 LMQ would out-form the tweaked gallardo since it could have as much as 600hp and the DSG as well..in addition the V10 LMQ definitely won't be available for a half of gallardo's price...rather for 3/4

and don't tell me that you can't see the tweaked gallardo coming - it's safe to come :)

Since the murcie is to have roughly 680hp there is space for increase of gallardo's power.

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If the LMQ won't out-perform the Gallardo, then the Gallardo certainly won't be allowed to trump the flagship Murcielago. If the Gallardo were to be bumped to 600hp. as you say ( which I don't think is likely, not from the NA V10 in it's present state of displacement anyway) theoretically, the Murcielago would have to have an output of close to 700hp. or more to maintain an advantage. Unless the car underwent massive weight loss which seems even less likely.

The Murci's 6.2 liter V12 is already pressing out 580 hp. at a lofty 7,500 rpm. More is possible, but not 120+hp. more without some major retuning or forced induction. And I doubt twin-turbos would ever be standard. The V12's very flat torque curve would have to be preserved as well ideally, so more considerations there.

A tweaked Murci is deffinitely comeing, but I wouldn't expect the Gallardo to be tweaked too much in the near future. The Murci has some turf to recover. :)

If the LMQ won't out-perform the Gallardo, then the Gallardo certainly won't be allowed to trump the flagship Murcielago.

The point is that the V10 LMQ would out-perform the gallardo if the gallardo wasn't uptweaked - that's why it is to be uptweaked - lets remember that it's very far fetched (v10 LMQ=2008) - so you're right it won't be here anytime soon -rather in 2007 (to ensure the gallardo will be superior to the V10 LMQ when it arrives)

And even the updated gallardo will still not be able to trump the murcie simply because the murcie will have already been updated -to be more specific the engine dedicated for the updated murcie is to have 6.5l of displacement - it is said to be able to put out 750hp (apparently direct injection and other gimmicks are about to be used) but it will be detuned to about 680hp in the production form due to durability etc.

not from the NA V10 in it's present state of displacement anyway

These 600 horses would come from a bored-out version of course...it is thought that displacement of this V10 could go to 6.0l...coupled with possible direct injection 600hp doesn't seem to be a problem

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