Yes or no... should I buy this supra?

[rsx-daniels]

I think I really want this supra, but I can't decide. Let me know what you guys think. It sounds like a good deal, but I just cant make up my mind.

Here is is, dont drool too much

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Hallo rsx-daniels,

 

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[kleinefisch]

it depends what you want out of it. if you want a 10 second car, buy that and trick it out and you will be satisfied. if you want a cool car, go with a Ferrari or Lambo (i don't know your budget though) 8) . if you want a real track car, porsche is the way to go. it all depends what you want. personally, if i was looking for a quarter mile racer, i still wouldn't go with supra because it's japanese. i would go with a Corvette Lingenfelter.

[thepolarfoxqx]

when tuned right, a supra is a really cool car. it does not compare to a supercar (ie, lingerfelter). For the buck, it is a cool ride.

[izzyloveslizzy]

Why is everyone in the US into Supras so much? I rarely even see Supras up here in Vancouver. Even though people up here have the exact same attitude when it comes to choice of cars and modification of cars. Wonder why?

[thepolarfoxqx]

it is an affordable, fast, japanese car. its nothing special, it fills a niche.

[izzyloveslizzy]

Yeah I know it's nothing special, but it still doesn't explain why we don't have them up here. I don't think I've seen more than 2 or 3.... Also, I just overall find it weird that people (newbees) opt for Japanese cars instead of other cars, when you can clearly find many good deals on other cars as well. And what's with this overall fascination with modified Japanese cars?

[thepolarfoxqx]

it's a fad. Dollar for dollar, a used camaro or mustang, V6 or V8, would be plenty cheap, fast out of the box, very easy to make faster. Furthermore, these were designed to be sports cars, a civic was designed to get you from point a to b cheaply.

Maybe Supra failed to pass canadian emissions. I think that is what finally killed it in the US market.

[izzyloveslizzy]

Funny you mentioned that (Canadian emmissions...). A lot of things fail Canadian standards, and sometimes it can get a bit annoying. Did you know we won't be getting the Audi RS6 in Canada because of our "unique" (more like "pointless") bumper regulations? Damn! They're really getting on my nerves with these "regulations". Besides, the U.S., Asia and Europe are already polluting the planet to waste, so why does Canada care so much? It's a mystery....

Edit: Note: Funny because we're still going to get the Ferrari 575M Maranello here, which emmits approximately 500g/KM of CO2!!!!!!! And the milage is around 11 or 10 miles-per-gallon. Good God, what are these people thinking? I don't think the Emmissions are even an issue because we already have other cars like tanks (Hummers) roaming around the place.

[thepolarfoxqx]

The US lost out on a lot of great cars due to emissions, the 3.8L M5 for example. Well that is ok, I got back at the EPA for that one. I bought a Land Rover 4.6 as a commuter

The way I drive, less than 10mpg baby!!!

[izzyloveslizzy]

Heh! Funny! You're actually doing things the other way! I wonder what Satan would drive!?!

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Hallo rsx-daniels,

 

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[imported_jztypeR]

A buddy of mine had an '89 Supra single turbo (Around 240 HP or so), when that sucker hit boost it would pin you to the seat like nothing else for that price ($6,000.00 Canadian in 1996 or 97). You would have had to spend $10,000.00 on the engine of a Mustang to beat that car in a drag race, and probably $20,000.00 on suspension and frame stiffening to even approach it through the twisties.

A new Vett might give it a challenge on the strip, but the corners would still be close, and the price difference is Crazy!

Not to mention the fact that this car was only the single turbo. A 1994-98 Twin-turbo (320 HP) would spank the Vette on the strip and road course. I don't even think a stock Z06 would beat the 94-98 Supra hands down on a road course.

Plus the body styling, that started in 1993 was way ahead of its time and copied many times after, (put a Ferrari 360 Modena beside the Supra). On that note, compare the 2000+ Honda S2000 to the 2003 Viper (other than the longer hood necessary to hide the 6 extra cylinders in the Viper they are VERY similar.

http://mywebsite.register.com/db4/00395/jayhubbard.com/_uimages/2003HondaS2000.jpg

http://mywebsite.register.com/db4/00395/jayhubbard.com/_uimages/newvipers2000ripoff.jpg

[izzyloveslizzy]

... Plus the body styling, that started in 1993 was way ahead of its time and copied many times after, (put a Ferrari 360 Modena beside the Supra). On that note, compare the 2000+ Honda S2000 to the 2003 Viper (other than the longer hood necessary to hide the 6 extra cylinders in the Viper they are VERY similar....

That's a very big difference what you're talking about. Comparing the Viper and the S2000 is just crazy, but it's not as bad as your comparing the Toyota Supra and Ferrari 360.

[imported_jztypeR]

A buddy of mine had an '89 Supra single turbo (Around 240 HP or so), when that sucker hit boost it would pin you to the seat like nothing else for that price ($6,000.00 Canadian in 1996 or 97). You would have had to spend $10,000.00 on the engine of a Mustang to beat that car in a drag race, and probably $20,000.00 on suspension and frame stiffening to even approach it through the twisties. With the 2 of us in the car, we hit about 155 Mph before having to back off. On a colder, less windy day, with only the driver 160-170 Mph would have been easy!

A new Vett might give it a challenge on the strip, but the corners would still be close, and the price difference is Crazy!

Not to mention the fact that this car was only the single turbo. A 1994-98 Twin-turbo (320 HP) would spank the Vette on the strip and road course. I don't even think a stock Z06 would beat the 94-98 Supra hands down on a road course.

Plus the body styling, that started in 1993 was way ahead of its time and copied many times after, (put a Ferrari 360 Modena beside the Supra). On that note, compare the 2000+ Honda S2000 to the 2003 Viper (other than the longer hood necessary to hide the 6 extra cylinders in the Viper they are VERY similar).

http://mywebsite.register.com/db4/00395/jayhubbard.com/_uimages/2003HondaS2000.jpg

http://mywebsite.register.com/db4/00395/jayhubbard.com/_uimages/newvipers2000ripoff.jpg

[izzyloveslizzy]

So did you actually mention anything new in this copy post? Other than the 16-170MPH speed statement?

[imported_jztypeR]

Open up the 2 pics, each in a new window (right click then click "open in new window" for those who weren't sure).

Then look over the pics, (i.e. the mirrors, the rocker panels, the headlights, the air dam (less the trademarked Dodge "crosshairs" in the Grille), the fog lamp location, the color of the A-pilars, the roll protectors behind the seats and the over-all simetrics of the vehicles. Sure there are SOME cosmetic differences, Dodge would HAVE to do that to make sure that they do not break any copyright laws.

Here are the links again, try them out:

http://mywebsite.register.com/db4/00395/jayhubbard.com/_uimages/2003HondaS2000.jpg

http://mywebsite.register.com/db4/00395/jayhubbard.com/_uimages/newvipers2000ripoff.jpg

The H.I.D. headlamps, the wheels and the tire sizes seem to be the only HUGE differences.

[izzyloveslizzy]

LOL! Copyright laws? Dude I think there's a good 20 more cars out there that all have those features. This argument that people keep brigning up (one company copying another's designs) is ridiculous. I don't see anything too similar between the S2000 and the Viper. But I do see similarities between the S2000 and the new RX8. And some of the things you mentioned (such as the position of the foglamps) is unbelievable, considering that even my old Hillman probably had the foglamps in the same position. I disagree. Maybe other people could get their opinions in about it.

What do you think people, do these two look the same?

I think this thing's gone entirely too far.

[Inabj2]

Well, once again some of you I don't think are informed on the supra. It actually doesn't make such a drag car. They need more power then other more expensive cars would need to run those high 8s 9s and 10 second marks. Why? Becuase it comes with an IRS rather then a rear axle suspension setup. (A 1000 hp supra should not run mid 9s, more like low 8s.) IT has a problem with traction during launch. At least it is a challenging car to launch.

Honestly the supra is a road course car, that is capable of handing and defeating most of your what I consider somewhat overpriced european exotics. And with a few cheap upgrades and a basic know how you can have a monster that will submit your much more expensive rivals into fear. Mainly brake upgrades and a good suspension upgrades, as well with other handling upgrades you can squeeze skid pads that well exceed 1 g (1.05-1.20 gs.) Power level wise, with 1500 dollars you will obtain 460 bhp, enough power to compete with a porsche 911 turbo on accelaration. (could go either way.) And defeat a bone stock Z06 vette. (not by much). If you opt to go with anyhwere above 650 rwhp with the siad upgrades others cars top ends more expensive cars will become swiss cheese to you. Its a car that a less fortunate enthusiast can use to slay the much more economically well to do car enthusiast.

But its up to you, if you want overall performance and have some car knowledge or access to someone that does go with the supra. You will not regret it. If you want a car that performs well but more importantly you are more interested in becoming the talk of your neighborhood, or you preffer a status symbol enhancer with some performance on top of it go with any of the beatiful exotics.

Other corrections: A bone stock supra will not hang with a Z06 vette, the Z06 vette being a car that can perform with a 911 turbo. It will however perform very closely to a LS1 powered corvette.

However I will say one joy of a tuned supra owner is absolutely annihilating cars that are supposed to outperform it. Honestly do not obtain one if you plan to remain stock, the supra is a car designed to be modified.

I can tell you one famous person who IS happy with obtaining a supra, famous wrestlers Hulk Hogan.

http://www.i-supra.com/6/ubb.x?a=tpc&s=154607117&f=599600727&m=9566063832&r=8606094932#8606094932

That man is big isn't he? I guess there is an inconvinience in being over 6'6" tall lol.

[thepolarfoxqx]

fitting him into a supra - i'm impresssed. at 6'4", I can't fit into a ferrari F40. Period. A 360 is a tight fit, as is a 512, and my alfa gets uncomfortable. I never knew they were that roomy (i don't remember the last time i rode in one.)

There are plenty of IRS cars with great launch traction. Supra just isn't one of them .

I agree totally on it being more of a hanlding car than a drag strip racer.

[skyline_r34v]

I have a movie with Hulk Hogan in his SUPRA whilst in the BPU++ form doing a pass by shot. They never said anything bout him upgrading it to the IV stage kit but not like i really get to talk 2 him now do i :P