Spy shots of 2007 Toyota Supra.

[LateNightCable]

All out power was not the Celica's forte, but with a curb weight of around 2,500 lbs., a tight suspension, and a redline of over 7,500 rpm. a race car flavor definitely was. It remains one of the best handling cars in it's class - it's a driver's car. On top of that, I personally find it a work of sculpture, especially for a reletively high volume sporty coupe.

There is nothing really impressive about the Scion tC. It's also pretty bland looking.

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[Speedster25]

Lol. Everything is bland about the Scion tc, its better than the xA and xB, but none are anything special.

[Lunchbox626]

The Tc is going to have a turbo kit out soon to produce at least 400 hp and you can't turbo the celica because it comes stock with a compression ratio of 1:11 and that isn't good for turbo's and the Tc has more displacemant then the celica with a 2.4 liter 4 cylinder instead of a 1.8 liter 4

And the Gm's at toyota motor sales in North America do have the final word in anything that goes on in the toyota motor sales

[bleh]

The Tc is going to have a turbo kit out soon to produce at least 400 hp and you can't turbo the celica because it comes stock with a compression ratio of 1:11 and that isn't good for turbo's and the Tc has more displacemant then the celica with a 2.4 liter 4 cylinder instead of a 1.8 liter 4

i really doubt 400 hp. probably a little over 200, but it will NOT get over 300 from factory. you can totally boost a car with an 11:1 compression ratio. you just have to have a conservative tune and run low boost, but that doesnt matter since if you get a good tune you will be making more power across the rpms with less boost.

also the corolla and solara handle like garbage. ive driven both and was very unimpressed. to address the other tangent: i think the tc looks decent, just cus its something new.

[wEstSide]

There already is a TRD supercharger for the Scion tC.

[bleh]

trd supercharger, aka -->

[LateNightCable]

A factory turbo kit for the Scion tC making at least 400 hp. As Clint Eastwood said in The Gauntlet, " not in their wildest halucinations. "

The TRD supercharger kit, which costs $4,500 is good for only 200hp. - indeed. TRD is working on a performance package good for 300.

The bland appearance of the tC is actually intended to act as a "blank canvas" for customizers, and people who want to modify the car's look - fine. But my question is, what if you don't have the cash for that or aren't inclined to put a lot of work into your car? You're stuck driving a dull looking ride.

[skyline_r34v]

Dull looking ride?? The Scion TC is very far from being dull at all.

You doubt 400hp?? There is already a Scion TC that has over 533whp. It's a dyno queen but it shows that engine can really make some power.

Also, you say there's nothing really impressive about the TC. What other 3,000lb car with 160hp does the 1/4 mile in mid 15's?? No car, exactly. The TC is definitely a contender for the best bang for buck car period. Even though the FACTORY TRD supercharger option will only net 200hp, it is a mid 14 second car. What car do you know that's 3,000lbs and 200hp and into the 14's much less mid 14's. Not many if at all. The TC is an AWESOME bargain deal and I've been pondering on selling some things in order to have a project TC.

[bleh]

You doubt 400hp?? There is already a Scion TC that has over 533whp. It's a dyno queen but it shows that engine can really make some power.

stock internals? seems like the amount of power of any highly modified 4banger. not impressed.

Also, you say there's nothing really impressive about the TC. What other 3,000lb car with 160hp does the 1/4 mile in mid 15's?? No car, exactly. The TC is definitely a contender for the best bang for buck car period. Even though the FACTORY TRD supercharger option will only net 200hp, it is a mid 14 second car. What car do you know that's 3,000lbs and 200hp and into the 14's much less mid 14's. Not many if at all.

i really want to see some sources. dont get me wrong though i think the car is decent, but mid 15s, bone stock with 160hp at the crank and 3000lbs? and mid 14 with 200??

i like the way it looks: stock. no hugga bugga nfs underground crap. but there really is nothing special about the car. how much does it go for btw? someone who feels like gathering all the information should make a post.

that said: NOT IT!!!!!

[skyline_r34v]

http://www.caranddriver.com/article.asp?section_id=3&article_id=8288&page_number=4

There was another link to a testing of the TRD TC but it's not working anymore.

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[skyline_r34v]

Celicas were never that powerful. The truth is a Toyota Corolla could give it a run for its money, maybe even a Solara. I'm pretty sure both over power the Celica. I love the styling of the Celica, very aggressive, very sharp, I just wished they put some kind of power in the car. This is pretty much a sport car that can be tuned, by aftermarket parts.

Celica's never needed to be powerful. They were faster having 180hp I-4 than the V6 GT Eclipse, V6 Mustang, V6 Camaro and the 95-98 V8 GT Mustang's. The reason why alot of power isn't added is because of the lack of putting an LSD as a factory standard (which raises costs) because it already takes a skilled driver to take a Celica off the line. Plus that engine is make TONS of power from it's engine.

If you haven't noticed it's a 1.8L I-4 and it's making 180hp. That means it's making over 100hp/L, so by your standards you're saying the E46 M3 is weak in power because it's "only" 333hp from it's 3.2L I-6.

Please a Toyota Corolla only gives a regular Neon and a regular Civic a run for it's money in speed. Corolla's are slow as bajesus and handle like complete shit.

[Lunchbox626]

Guys we are talking about a car that costs about 18 grand fully loaded the celica GT-S was in the mid 20's and there is more performance cars coming to the Scion line up that will be quite nice you just have to wait and see

[bleh]

the only reason it gets into the mid-high 15s is cus of the short gear box, designed for the us. look at that 0-60 time. know why? cus your shifting into 3rd at 51mph. those short gear ratios are the only thing going for it. if they could raise the rpms a couple thousand it would be much faster, bumping out the shift points considerably. i do admit that for the price it is a pretty good deal.

also the new corolla s does not compare to the new si. i have driven both. the only yota that i have driven that had decent suspension was the celica. but since they arent being made anymore i guess they can celica my balls. hahaha... dumb joke...sorry.

[Speedster25]

I never said the M3 was weak in power. You're typing that, I never did. And btw 180/1.8= 100 not 100+.

[skyline_r34v]

I never said the M3 was weak in power. You're typing that, I never did. And btw 180/1.8= 100 not 100+.

OK smartass no shit it's 100hp.

[skyline_r34v]

Bleh they do not shift into 3rd at 51mph. They are still in 2nd at 51mph.

[bleh]

Bleh they do not shift into 3rd at 51mph. They are still in 2nd at 51mph.

ok right, right. at 52 mph they are in 3rd gear. but my point was that you cant get faster than 51 unless you shift.

[LateNightCable]

Sure, more power can always be made, but the 533 hp. tC that Skyline mentioned would never be brought to market, that's all I meant'

The Car&Driver guys made note that the tC is solid, has decent moves, and is a good deal. But that there is nothing really outstanding about the car. I don't think that a 0-60 of 7.4 and a 1/4 time of 15.7 @ 88 mph. is really enough to impress the crowd that Toyota hopes to attract to the Scion. I know performance packages are in the works ( which will jack the cost of the tC ), and refinement aside, but as it stands now, an $18,000 Scion tC gets completely left in the dust my the likes of a $22,000 SRT-4. If youth oriented performance is what they are trying to sell with the Scion, their focus seems a little blurry.

As for the Celica not being made anymore, it is. 2005 is the last year for it, get em' while you can!

[Charlie 350 Z]

You guys are funny, I don't think they will come out with a super car like that unless it is targeted for rich people. Remember what happend with the Supra? they stoped making it because you could buy it for 45k put an extra 10k in the engine and smoked porshes and ferraris. It will be stupid to come out after 8 years with a big ass car, that probably 1 out of 100k people could afford. if they come back they have to use something to compete against 350Z ,mustangs GT, Vettes and another 2nd division sports car. Anyway if they change the engine it won't be a Supra anymore. A Supra is a 6 in line supercharged that smokes ass. another engine will be something else. peace guys

[wEstSide]

they stoped making it because you could buy it for 45k put an extra 10k in the engine and smoked porshes and ferraris.

Not quite. Legend has it that they stopped production because of high insurance prices associated with the Supra name in Japan.

But yea, it would have to compete with the Z, Evo, STi, SRT-4, Corvette, among others. I heavily doubt if this is a 100k+ supercar, that it will carry the Supra name. As said, it would probably be a Lexus.

[LateNightCable]

You guys are funny, I don't think they will come out with a super car like that unless it is targeted for rich people.

You're funny too. Have you ever heard of a supercar that wasn't targeted to rich people? A supercar targeted to lower income buyers, now that's something I'd to see.

I agree though, a Supra is a straight-six or nothing at all. And the car we're talking about here would probably not be called a Supra anyway.

[bleh]

f they come back they have to use something to compete against 350Z ,mustangs GT, Vettes and another 2nd division sports car. Anyway if they change the engine it won't be a Supra anymore. A Supra is a 6 in line supercharged that smokes ass. another engine will be something else. peace guys

mustang gt's are definitely not competition. and i feel sorry for the toolbox who supercharges a supra. i definitely agree with you otherwise though. and yea it must only have one bank of cylinders and 1 or more cinnamon buns hangin off the header to be a supra.

[LateNightCable]

it must only have one bank of cylinders and 1 or more cinnamon buns hangin off the header to be a supra.

I don't know about that. Most Supra's I would imagine are not turboed at all. Although the turbo models are indeed the "Supraest" and most desirable of all.

[bleh]

yea you know what i mean. a turbo model really needs to be offered. i dont want them pulling a nissan you know?

[Charlie 350 Z]

Toyota seems to have it in their minds that the straight layout is outdated, and they don't want to develop a new I-6.

The claims of a mid-engined V10 car have been pretty strong. The engine is said to be a calaboration between Toyota and Yamaha, not based on Toyota's own F1 engine. It's even been suggested that Toyota would wait until their F1 racing fortunes are looking up to introduce something like this.

Probably not a Lexus, since that's a luxury division ( although exactly what a luxury car is has been a little blurred over the years ). Toyota is the main brand, and would benefit the most from a halo supercar.

I think toyota has made a lot of money being family oriented in their cars since the 1990's up and keeping the conservative line in order to gain fans. Now the issue here is that they are coming back strong , meaning corollas supercharged, celica's agressive look, I mean guys now they can afford to make a sports car that rocks, but have you think, why make a super expenssive sport car that only a few can afford. Not very smart for a super big company that is targetting the young consumers with agressive and sportier looks. i would go for a V-6 highly tuned triying to match S2000 and 350 Z performance, afordable price between the 28's and 35's and with toyota logo will be a completely success. Think like this , how many toyota fans( including me ) would have bought a 350 Z or an S2000 or an RX-8 if toyota would have started againg a new Supra line. give me a break, a lot of people would have gone for the mighty Supra, I'm right or wrong. toyota is a company made out of conservativism they wait to see how the market moves, see a trend and go for it. Personally I think they are going to come back strong with a V-6 with a lot of options pushing around the 300hp. Just a coment