Best tuner car

[wanderer]

How is it innorant to have my own opinion. I don't get how you can think this. Let me guess, if I don't go to church every Sunday than I'm going to hell. Like I've said before, God didn't write the Bible. A bunch of white, middle-aged men from way back did. Disobeying your parents isn't always a sin. What happens when your parents ask you to steal for them hmm. Your parents aren't perfect. Sometimes they're horrible. Especially when they beat they're kids. What happens when a parent is going to molesture their child. The child has to go allong right. You are one of those people who believe anything they hear from someone holy. So that if somebody else believes different from you than there wrong. Well, here it is, you can't proove it, you have no case.

First of all, people are not supposed to go to church on sunday, only because God created the earth in six days and rested the on the seventh and He called that day the Sabbath, and to hollow it and keep it holy, as He says in the ten commandments. Sunday is the first day, monday is the

second, tuesday is the third, wednesday is the fourth, thursday is the fifth,

friday is the sixth, and saturday or sabbath is the seventh therefore I am part of the Seventh-Day Adventist religion, we keep the seventh day, we cannot watch tv, we cant use the computer, we go to church in the morning and come back around two o'clock, this as Ellen G. White says to us in her books which are inspired by visions givin to her by God.

Second of all, God didn't write the Bible but he was the one who told His profets to write it, therefore the Bible was not written directly by God but by the words He inspired the profets to write.

Last of all, sometimes it is write to disobey your parents for like you said

if they ask you to steal, if its breaking the ten commandments, for example: murder somebody, steal from somebody, feel jealous of somebody, its all wrong its those times when you dont obey your parents,

but if its not breaking the commandments then its your obligated duty to obey it.

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[GIR]

Homosexuality is wrong mainly becuz it was Adam and Eve and not Adam and Steve.

If GOD wanted homosexuality and planned it he would've made 3 people instead of 2 and GIVE them the act of choosing their own destiny.

If u read the Bible u'll read they had a choice of wat 2 do BUT was ignorant of right and wrong and only knew right.

Sighs... skyline have you ever read the bible? the bible never sais anything against homosexuals, infact theres some refferences to homosexuality in the bible.

I'm all for having constructive conversations and all, but I think this thread is getting a little out of hand here.

[LateNightCable]

You're right Skyline, it's a good thing you aren't a moderator. Some of you guys can't seem to be and let be. I see nothing more here than the castigation of anything not written in the bible. Many people seem to have an opinion on what the bible says even though reletively few have ever actually read the thing straight through. One could easily say that " God's inspiring words " were nothing more than the voices in their heads. The bible is actually steeped in a great deal of abstraction.

Wheather someone has studied the bible thoroughly or not is not the point, just stop being preachy. It's that kind of backlash attitude towards things one feels threatened by that has been a big cause of pain in this world. " Ethnic cleansing " comes to mind.

I'm with GIR, constructive conversation is one thing, but no more hostile crap.

[GIR]

Second of all, God didn't write the Bible but he was the one who told His profets to write it, therefore the Bible was not written directly by God but by the words He inspired the profets to write.

Don't wish to shatter another dream but... the bible has been rewritten numerous times in the middle ages and in the catholic church the pope has the power to interprete or rewrite which ever parts as he sees fit. The bible has been translated from aremaic to english (or which any other language), translators have given sentences their own interpretation and because translators haven't been clear enough readers have given yet another interpretation to parts fo it. The bible it self doesn't say anything against this.

Have you ever wondered why there are so many branched believes which originate in the bible. All of them basicly believe the same but with subtle differences. All have a subtlely different book which they call the bible.

Now moving right over, the koran on the other end explicitly sais that nobody is allowed rewrite or misinterprete any parts of it. The koran is the only book which sais that it shall not be translated into other languages with out the original text included. The koran is infact the only book who's original copy still excists.

So if you want to base your believes on a book which hasn't been rewritten. I suggest you become a muslim.

Wheather someone has studied the bible thoroughly or not is not the point, just stop being preachy. It's that kind of backlash attitude towards things one feels threatened by that has been a big cause of pain in this world. " Ethnic cleansing " comes to mind.

And that is the point of all the believes. It's not preaching to others about how good your believes are and how your god is going to save everybody if they just believe in him/her. It's not about forcing your believes on to others just because you think you are right. It's not about killing or disliking a group of people just because they do not believe the same or their life style doesn't confirm with your believes.

It's about giving each other the respect and love any human or animal deserves. Which many people in the world seem to miss, infact the people who don't get the point behind religion are people who have themselves never taken the time to read what the book actually sais. People who have ideas indoctrinated into their heads that somehow conforming to some very bad ideas makes them good believers and will assure a passage to heaven. Nonsense!

[skyline_r34v]

I don't believe this topic is out of hand but it seriously could so i would suggest it be closed.

Jus for the safe-keepin. We can let each other believe wat we believe and move on.

Sry if i seem preachy or nething but if i even saw a

remote diss of the Bible (not sayin there was) i'm gonna climb sum ass about it.

Even though let's jus close this so it can't get ne worse cuz ONE word said could corrupt this site alot, especially with religion.

[LateNightCable]

The topic is still valid and the thread hasn't gotten out of hand, so no need to close it. Just a discussion change from religion back to " favorite tuner car " is in order.

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to bring things back on track(didnt feel like reading 1.5 pages of theology). i think the best tuner cars are probably:

civic, integra(rsx whatever), mustang(probably best), all of the f bodys, all of the turbo audi/vw, m3, srt-4, 2g eclipse, miata, most of the japanese 6cylinder supercars(supra, z, etc.), 240sx....uh there are probably others out there but the main reason i selected these is large aftermarket capability that yeilds decent gains. it really boils down to how much you want to spend. but the best tuner car has to be the mustang, you can get so much out of those so fast and depending on the mods, could still be under warranty.

[LateNightCable]

Ah, thats one way of looking at it. I thought he might be asking what the best tuned car might be, but in terms of potential per dollar, I would definitely go with something American, like a Mustang. Being domestic, the parts would be pretty cheap to purchase, the possibility for FI is great.

This is speaking in terms of a speed machine and less of a handling machine, but those pony cars posess enormous potential for reletively low cost transformation.

[wanderer]

There you go I was asking what do you guys think is the best tuner car,

the best car to tune, thats was my question.

My favorite tuner car would probably be the toyota supra, I just think its such a good car to tune, as for muscle I'd probably say either the pontiac gto, chevy camaro, or the ford mustang.