3000GT Vr-4

[skyline_r34v]

Well of course we've already talked about the top speed in what we've done in our cars and I've done 180-190mph in mine, can't remember which but it was somewhere in that ballpark.

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[quarter485]

just wondering were you got that pic from. is it on 3si? i have never seen that engine bay and could possibly be the most powerful 3s in the world. would you mind posting any information on it? thanks

[thepolarfoxqx]

downforce at 180 or 190? I've yet to find any reliable data on anyone getting a 3kgt to go that fast period. Aerodynamics is a very very finessed science. You can't neccesarily calculate it by looks. It's tricky and full of bizarre phenomenon. Not only would a 3kgt fly (like lift off) at 190, but where exactly do you have a road you can do that, one smooth, straight, and flat enough for that with no traffic?

[SERGIOE34]

Wow you realy like to tell stories dont you skyline?Ive worked at a number of car dealers transporting cars,and at the moment i happen to work for mitsubishi.I know for a fact that it is impossible for a 3000 to go 190 without significantly changing the aerodynamics.I drive these cars almost every day over very long distances.Ive taken a 3000 to about 139 when it started to feel a bit unstable.Your talking 50 mph faster than that.It cannot be done with that car.if you went 190 with that car you would have died that day and i know it.there are few cars that can safley go 190.the 3000 is not one of them.

[skyline_r34v]

Once again SERGIO you're an idiot for not knowing what somebody has done to their car. I frankly could give a rats ass wtf you believe, why can't you figure that out by now?

It doesn't matter what anybody on this site (including me) says if you have never done it yourself. When you have experience in dealing with the aerodynamic's of the GTO THEN you have the right to say it's impossible to get a GTO VR-4 over 170.

Like I said please stop saying shit can't be done unless you've dealt with it yourself instead of talking out your ass because you have some sort of mechanical/engineering knowledge. Knowledge and experience are 2 different things.

SERGIO, just because you work for Mitsu doesn't mean you know everything. You'll learn this one day that you're not always right like you think you are, but i'll leave this upto you to see for yourself.

[skyline_r34v]

downforce at 180 or 190? I've yet to find any reliable data on anyone getting a 3kgt to go that fast period. Aerodynamics is a very very finessed science. You can't neccesarily calculate it by looks. It's tricky and full of bizarre phenomenon. Not only would a 3kgt fly (like lift off) at 190, but where exactly do you have a road you can do that, one smooth, straight, and flat enough for that with no traffic?

I usually do HWY-19, it's about 2 blocks from my house. It's an evacuation route. It's extremely long, very smooth in probably 99% of the area and pretty straight. Traffic is usually very very minimal between 10am-12pm and 10pm-morning. Excluding Friday's and the weekend.

Downforce goes with studying the cars aerodynamic capabilities. Alot of people say it's impossible to have the older gen' neon's over 160+ but there've been alot of people who have done it.

[skyline_r34v]

there are few cars that can safley go 190.the 3000 is not one of them.

Whoever said it was safely and felt securely doing it? All I recall is hearing 190 can't be done, I don't remember seeing a post saying it can't be done safely. Then i'd change my posts.

[SERGIOE34]

Whoever said it was safely and felt securely doing it? All I recall is hearing 190 can't be done, I don't remember seeing a post saying it can't be done safely. Then i'd change my posts

Its funny that all u recall hearing was 190 cant be done, because i dont recall saying that.But i can recall saying it cant be done without significantly changing the aerodynamics of the car.probly so much it wouldnt even look like a 3000 anymore.Im not just talking about a giant park banck wing like you probly have.

[thepolarfoxqx]

wow, it continues. amazing.

The fundemental aerodynamics of a car can't be easily changed. You say we don't know what you've done to your 3000GT, that might be true. By the way you talk about it, I don't think you have a concept of what 190mph is either.

You can't alter the fundemental aerodynamics of a car with a wing and some side skirts, and a chin spoiler. Those won't do, literally anything, to a poorly aerodynamically designed car. Unless you've ripped the 3000GT body of your car and put a ferrari F575MM body in its place, you aren't doing 190 and living to talk.

And explain to me how a first generation neon does better than 160. I can mathematically prove that impossible. First off, top gear at the redline is barely doing 120 in that car. I've been in a neon with a wing and some under the hood mods done at 120, it's first off (loud), seccondly it's all over the place. The most gentle gust of wind and that thing would blow away, that's at 120. It wouldn't make it to 160, period. There just isn't enough you could do to that car to make it aerodynamically sound at high speed.

Dude, get real.

[skyline_r34v]

If you do a search on this site or goto my name and look at previous posts, I've posted vaguely on this site what i've done to the car. The whole car has been completely redone and yes it still looks like a GTO.

It's been done numerous times if you don't believe me, goto www.google.com and search up the 3000gt vr-4 forums and start asking questions, most that have highly modified track GTO's (not dragsters) have reached upwards of 160 and over 180+.

Don't ask me how a neon can go 160, I don't know anything about those cars and rightly so. I was going to show you the vid and post that I saw it but both are unavailable from the server and "The page cannot be displayed".

Please start doing a search before making anymore posts because all you're doing is showing ignorance with every post. Thanks.

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[skyline_r34v]

Its funny that all u recall hearing was 190 cant be done, because i dont recall saying that.But i can recall saying it cant be done without significantly changing the aerodynamics of the car.probly so much it wouldnt even look like a 3000 anymore.Im not just talking about a giant park banck wing like you probly have.

It's also funny how with every post you get even more obnoxious and censure my posts.

If you look at all the posts in the forum did I say "SERGIO said 190 can't be done," no I don't think I directed it towards you. So why on everything I post you think it directly goes towards you? Do you have some sort of superiority complex or what?

I didn't mean to say ALL but I saw it say was not possible, then the post was changed to not possible with dramatic changes to a GTO without making it look like one anymore.

Until ya'll finally do some search on the site and have anything else INTELLIGENT to say, then this topic should be locked.

[skyline_r34v]

I think the 3000 would be capable of well over 160 with enough work.

LNC has the right idea.

[thepolarfoxqx]

is there a purpose to making three consecutive posts?

And I have searched. Give me reliable evidence of this.

Also, you are mis-using the word censure.

[skyline_r34v]

Actually i'm not.

[LateNightCable]

Censure

1. Obsolete : Estimate or Judge

2. To find fault with and criticize as blameworthy

[skyline_r34v]

and #2 is the term I use it as. SERGIO finds my posts faulty hence calling me a liar on everything. He also criticizes everything I say.

SO LIKE I SAID, I didn't misuse the word.

[ZBlacktt]

Whoa, lol. A lot of people are taking ones opinion and trying to throws facts at it. That's not the intent I think of the original post starter. Though a fair and balance reply, people can bring up salient points on what they believe to be the best Japan sports car. Some of the post in here were pretty funny and enlighting.Oh btw, there was and has never been an AWD Z. Even the Z32 was based of a car called a Mid-4 that was AWD, but never made it to production. It was a cross between a Skyline and the Z we see today.

[Craigathie]

Sweet link, because a ways back some1 said vr4's couldnt beat a 13second qtr or somethin so i found this in a few clicks from google

http://www.dragtimes.com/Mitsubishi-3000GT-Timeslip-7149.html

[bleh]

Sweet link, because a ways back some1 said vr4's couldnt beat a 13second qtr or somethin so i found this in a few clicks from google

http://www.dragtimes.com/Mitsubishi-3000GT-Timeslip-7149.html

that is very impressive, but that run is barely in 'street trim'.

drag radials, c16, nitrous, a semi built motor, and 26 psi account for a lot of that. that car is an awesome car! but think of the funds that were poured into it. also, that is the fastest vr4/stealth that is close to street trim in the world as of october 4th, 2005! meaning NO vr4/stealth has gotten into the 9s in 'street trim'

i want to know what that car runs on the daily driven tires, with pump gas and without nitrous.

also bear in mind: i never said that a sub 13second vr4/stealth didnt exist or that it wasnt possible. im just saying i have yet to see it.

[imported_tarantula]

WOW !!!

You people certainly like your debaits...

I own a 3000GT TT

I have taken her up to 165mph in a very short section of road & there was still plenty more on the pedal....i only eased up because i was running out of dual carriageway & comming up on two cars as quick as you like.......one thing i will say is you do av to hold on to them !!

My Mechanic is under the impresion that they are capable of 180... he is one hell of a driver & has driven a lot of muscle cars

I`m inclined to go along with that....can`t say i`d like to be behind the wheel...but like i said...there was more there @ 165

[mehb]

numbers.

0-60: worst

topspeed: if the z was not limited (which only takes a few dolars) worst

lateral acc.: the only thing the 3000gt barely has over the nsx(show me the g's in both directions though)

1/4 mile: tied with the z

coclusion: over all the 3000gt is the worst of these three

any more comments Shayon201, thepolarfoxqx, vorros?

first those number are for 91 to 93 vr4.the 94 up is higher.

0 to 60:4.8

1/4 mile 13.5

60 to 0 110 feet (the best in class) even better than r34.

lateral acc 94g

and i don't think the z lateral acc is 99g.

now tell me why it's the worst in class? better than r32 gtr ?yes, better than 300zx? hell yes ,better than rx7? yes ,better than nsx?not in cornerring but for the rest yes ,better than supra? maybe in same class.

the 300zx lateral acc is 86g that's close to a suv,so don't even compare vr4 to that car.the active spoilers have been proven that will make big diffrence in high speed ,and cornering as well.the AWS will make diffrence.it reduse the understeer alot.

this video proves so maythings

http://videos.streetfire.net/search/3000gt/2/efab470d-fa82-4a35-b5b0-982e018336bf.htm

[PizzaDeliveryNinja]

I was looking for some info on engine swaps and ended up reading the last eight pages of comments. Thought I would join and give my two cents.

I am a delivery driver for Domino's Pizza. I put my cars through the ringer driving about 1000 miles in 4 days each week. I normally deliver in a 2004 VW GTI but somedays that car needed repairs. THe 1998 3000GT VR-4 was my last project cars so on the GTI's off days it had to takes its place. I hvae put this car through the ringer almost working a complete month with this thing. The car does have alot of issues but most of them come from this car being a tech marvel when it came out.

There are some points that need to be addressed before we can trully see what kind of car the 3000 GT. First the car was made in 1990 and only had one generation. So this car was designed to go compete in a market with Mazda RX-7 FC, Toyota Supra TT Mk3, Nissan 300Z Z31, and the Nissan Skyline GT-R R32. All except GT-R R32 are the models that came before the ones that most people use as examples of betters cars. By 1995 most of these cars were a generation ahead of the 3000 GT and all Mitsu did to keep up was change it for a 5spd to a 6spd. It was a generation behind of what it normally gets compared to. When it came out it was golden but after almsot a decade it got dull. Second issue is that this car was a tech marvel. It had alot of gadgets that were cool in concept but lacking in practicality. The biggest isuse with new tech in cars is never the reliablity but rather the size. Things get to the size that they need to be after their third to fourth generations of products. The laptop is a great example of this. Now all those electric do-dads it has extra combine with the little motors they need to run things is where you have alot of extra weight.

Now is it the worst in its class? Yes if we only compare it to last gen Supras, RX-7s, and GT-Rs.

Can it compete? Well if you drown enough money into any car it can be competitive.

Is it a good platform? You can do alot to it and it is an underdog. If you want to have a reason be more arrogant when you win this is a way.