Chrysler Crossfire

[thepolarfoxqx]

For the 2004 model, the US (maybe other markets) gets a 30 something thousand dollar sports coupe called a chrysler crossfire (remind anyone of TC by Maserati?). It will be powered by a Mercedes 3.2L V6. I am not sure why DC felt it neccesary to euro source a power plant when they have 3.0 and 3.5L units that are domestic that would fill the space.

I fear the MB is going to be diluted by chrysler.

What is next, an AMG Viper?

Why?

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Hallo thepolarfoxqx,

 

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[Seb2]

Hard to think that Chrysler could help Mercedes but maby. Heard Chrysler are making a new Hemi V8 engine for the Viper. That would be some extra. A hemi engine back on the line.

[thepolarfoxqx]

Chrysler is making a 5.7L Hemi V8 for 2003. For 2003 it is going into the Dodge Ram truck - and will make 345hp and 360 ft./lb. torque. For 2004 - either a 4.7L HO SOHC variant (290-310hp) or a variant of the 5.7L Hemi (perhaps with lower disp.) making 320-360hp for the 300M replacement (300N), 300N will also be RWD. I have heard no word of Hemi going into Viper, but that would be pretty awsome. I would defineately have more respect for Viper if it had a powerplant like that. I have also heard word of a 6.5L Hemi under development - maybe it is intended for viper. I don't know why the 3.0 DOHC or 3.5L SOHC powerplants weren't used in Crossfire. I think having the MB engine was a mistake not only for brand image, but for maintanance as well.

[Seb2]

Yes hemis rocks. Its maby the best engines ever made. They are still used in dragracing but a bit different. Getting 6000hp out of a Keith Black 500cui engine is nice. I have always been thinking of a Viper with a bigblock V8. Now theres romours about it. Imagine like a 700cui keith black hemi engine all alu with 14-71 BDS charger. If you need get a 400 Nos kit.

[thepolarfoxqx]

Yeah, well if you mutilate an engine like is neccesary for drag racing, you get some interesting stuff. I really would have liked to see an OHC Hemi, but with the numbers they are getting from the new 5.7L, who can complain? It is a very robust and versatile engine. Of course the GM 350 is another one of those engines.

[Sportline]

The reason for making the car with the M-B V-6 is obvious... the vehicle is based almost exclusively from the chassis of the SLK320. This type of component sharing was originally said to be a taboo when the DC merger happend, but now look what is going on...

[thepolarfoxqx]

Ok, the Chrysler 3.5L SOHC V6 is nearly the same size, weight, and output, it would have been much easier to use that (it is already in mass production in north america).

The only sharing I wouldn't mind seeing - Jeep Grand Cherokee's Quadra-Drive system finding its way into M Class

[mightyjlr]

If anyone is interested, I have started a new Crossfire forum at:

http://www.crossfireforum.org

Stop by and check it out.

Thanks

[LateNightCable]

I think the Mercedes/Chrysler alliance will be good primarily for Chrysler, although I have seen some cheesy Chrysler stuff pop up in wierd places in the Benz line.

Like the transmission shifter surround on the S-Class is straight Chrysler, and a set of wheels availabe for the CL Coupe look like they came straight off a Caravan!

[GIR]

That's not all. If you look at the interior, the hand made stuff is okay like the seats and the trim. But the plastic cup holders, plastic ashtrays and plastic this and that look like they came right off some American car, not really the MB way. Worste off al is that people have been reporting body panels that do not fit toghether.

For a complete article on this you can look here:

http://www.mbspy.com/mbquality.htm

If you scroll down to the middle of the page you'll see a column which has the average earnings of a boardmember per year. The MB earning is almost 4 times that of the rest, for that money you'd expect these money hungery voltures todo a proper job.

When I was little my father had several MB's, now the quality of those vehicles was something to be talked about. The current line really lacks the much famed quality and safety old MB had. When you see that there have been 5 critical recalls by MB this year, one being a fault in the powersteering system and another a fault in the electric system, you know there's something wrong.

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Hallo thepolarfoxqx,

 

schau doch mal hier zum Thema Zubehör für Mercedes (Anzeige)? Eventuell gibt es dort etwas Passendes.

[thepolarfoxqx]

i was sure you paid the outrageoud premium for a mercedes so you would have no compromises?

[GIR]

The funny thing is that I never noticed these things. The bashing of the seats is a little overrated if you ask me, the seats in my S500 were great, real comfortable and the seams fit together perfectly. I never noticed the ashtrays, I did not permit anybody to smoke in the car, but now they mention it, they were kinda cheaply done. Never had any big issues with the phoneholder under the armrest aswell. Contrary to what I've been hearing about the BMW and Audi cupholders, the MB cupholders do their job really well, hey they maybe plastic but they get the job done. Even under heavy breaking your cup won't fly out. I've been hearing lots of bad things about the BMW cupholders, even under normal driving conditions there is a chance the cups fly out.

I never noticed that these flaws were there untill somebody (that article) pointed them out for me because they are mere details, but then again thats what you pay for when you buy a merc, the details.

[thepolarfoxqx]

that is right. in jaguar you pay for materials and craftsmanship, character, in a bmw you pay for engineering, audi you don't pay that much, and mercedes you pay for details, everything is beyond reproach.

audi cupholders are acceptable, and the ones in the bmws are horrible for a reason, they remind you that in BMWs are meant to be driven, not lounged in.

Volvo has the best seats, don't even try to deny it, the AMG Mercedes ones are a close 2nd. BMW seats aren't that nice, but they do hold you in place.

[LateNightCable]

The 14-way BMW Comfort seats, if you can't get really comfortable in those then you must be shaped like beach ball.

They send man to the moon ( maybe ), and transplant hearts, but the pursuit of the perfect cup holder goes on.

[thepolarfoxqx]

the perfect cupholder has been around for some time.

its just that the germans haven't discovered it yet.

The 14 way bmw comfort seat takes so long to adjust to you that you will be a different shape by the time you get there. Sit in an AMG seat, sit in a volvo seat, 3 secconds of adjustment, and its like lay-z-boy made a bucket seat.

[LateNightCable]

I doubt there would ever be an AMG Viper, AMG is strictly Mercedes, and it's German which would not bode well for the Viper's All-American public image. The Viper is supposed to represent the pinnacle of Dodge performance anyway.

[thepolarfoxqx]

Furthermore, AMG would rather die than have their silver logo crested on the back of a Viper. The viper is the pinnacle of all things AMG is not. AMG makes an everyday car with performance equal to that of the greatest performance cars - with no compromises.

Any AMG car with an 8.3L engine would have to be making 4 digit horsepower numbers anyhow.