Overlooked American Supercars

[djfux69]

buick grand national is definetly fast in a straight line. my buddy dynod at over 800 rwhp. sick sick car to drive in.

seb, that syclone stock? whats is the gearing on it? because it should only be running 13s if it stock, but with new gearing i guess it could do it.

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[Seb2]

Got a Syclone here thats all stock except engine and driveline i think.

What i meant was that many fast Grand Nationals are for example tubed. This car still got ac and all that stuff. Seen it myself. The owner takes the car and drives it 300miles to Stockholm then race then drive back.

[izzyloveslizzy]

I want a car that beats the Dodge Tomahawk in performance. I want one with at least 1600HP, and at least 1600 pound-feet of torque. I want it to accelerate from 0-100KPH in under 2 seconds, and have a maximum speed of over 655KPH. I don't care what it is. I want something that can perform like that. I want "right now" performance. Comprende? Anyone wana make my dream a reality? Please??? I'd prefer something like the Mercury Montego. To hell with the Gran National and the rest. 8)

[samt]

Look at this site

http://www.gnttype.org/

[imported_felix]

That car is stunning! how much does it cost though?

[thepolarfoxqx]

i think it depends on how you want to setup your turbo regal. they are hard to find (gran nationals are a hot comidity here at least)

[Fael-Inis]

Has anybody heard anything about the Buick GNX? It was essentially a super-GN, I believe. Possibly also called the T-Type, though the book I've got doesn't call it that. It's a book called "Hot Cars" that I recieved at around age 10... That would put it at about 1990 for publishing date. It features cars such as the Corvette Indy, Peugeot Oxia, Zender Fact 4, the original Vector supercar, the Callaway Sledgehammer Corvette (254.75 mph), and a number of musclecars, as well as the 1989 20th anniversary Pontiac Turbo Trans Am pace car (which I believe was mentioned earlier in this thread). That is the book that ignited my passion for cars, and my habit of designing cars on napkins, receipts, pay stubs, bicycle claim tags (I'm a bike mechanic amongst other things) and pretty much anything else I can draw on and keep.

I'm going to google "Buick GNX" and see what I come up with, but I figured I'd run it past you guys as well

edit: First google result was - DUH - http://www.buickgnx.com/ Go take a look-see for yourselves

[thepolarfoxqx]

the gnx is an awsome car, i'd say the quintessential american sports car of its day. too bad they don't make cars like this anymore.

So when you design cars on napkins, you design the bodies right?

I have been drawing suspensions, engines, chasis, all sort of car things for years. I picked up a motor trend in 1991 and that set it all off. I've been obsessed ever since.

[LateNightCable]

Hey, don't forget the 1994 - '96 Chevrolet Impala SS, The last of the big rear-drive, full frame, V-8 B-bodies.

Or the 1990 - '93 Opel Lotus Omega / Vauxhall Lotus Carlton

Man, I love both of those cars! The Lotus is the grandfather of the supersedan, and as far as I know still holds the record as the fastest production sedan due to having no speed limiter.

Both of these cars were born as rebels --

the Impala SS as a wacky concept idea that might be good for some press and turned into a Legend and a huge sales success in the niche market, making GM " turn out as many as they could paint. " But then GM ended production so they could build more trucks.

The Omega / Carlton was born as a venture between Lotus Cars Ltd., Vauxhall of England and Opel of Germany ( all three makers being owned by GM at the time ) to give a performance jolt to their image.

Badged as the Vauxhall Carlton ( RHD ) in England and Opel Omega ( LHD ) everywhere else, it became the mild mannered sedan Lotus chose to makeover. The final product was a demon, with flared wheel arches, full areo kit, a wing, and 17" Ronal wheels on high performance tires specially made for the car. Mechanicaly it used the bullet proof 6-speed ZF gearbox of the Corvette ZR-1 to handle the 377 h.p. and 419 lb.ft. of torque produced by the twin-turbocharged and " charge-cooled " 3.6 L straight six. Top speed was an unlimited 176+ m.p.h. 0-60 in 5.1 sec. All this and admirable handling delivered in a civilized fashion with a leather interior, wood trim, CD sound, and four-door practicality - and only available in Empire green. 8)

This car really raised a stink when no one had ever seen that kind of speed in a " family car ". Certain individuals aven went as far as the British Parliament trying to have it banned. Nowadays, I don't think this car gets enough press.

[thepolarfoxqx]

The Impala SS was an amazing car, it was in many ways the last of the great american muscle cars, every bit a family car, every bit a hell born burner.

Ford tried with the mercury marauder, and if they used more aggressive styling, and the blown SVT 4.6L - which actually has low end torque - as opposed to the 300hp nautrally aspirated unit, they would be selling them as fast as they could slap the blowers under the hood.

It is sad that failed.

How is the lotus tweaked Opel Omega american?

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[LateNightCable]

Opel Lotus Omega isn't really American in any way other than all interests involved being owned by GM at the time. It's probably because of that ownership that the car was ever conceived. At an early stage they even considered using the ZR-1's Lotus pumped V-8, but internal politics wouldn't have that, not that I care, that twin-turbo six is hot enough.

Fully American or not, it should not be forgotten. I guess what really matters is that the Lotus Omega was an American initiative.

[izzyloveslizzy]

Opel Lotus Omega isn't really American in any way other than all interests involved being owned by GM at the time. It's probably because of that ownership that the car was ever conceived.

Doesn't GM still own Opel/Vauxhall/Holden/Lotus/Omega?

[thepolarfoxqx]

GM owns lots of things. So Does Ford. So Does Chrysler.

Does this mean that Saab, Volvo, Opel, Vauxhall, Jaguar, Aston Martin, Mercedes, Land Rover, Daewoo, and Mazda are all american cars?

[LateNightCable]

Of course those aren't really American, but there are always exceptions that just skim into the category for whatever reason.

[thepolarfoxqx]

sure, why not. i just think that i would have called that car british.