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1998 nsx curb weight of 3160lbs. 290hp. 224lb-ft

2002 nsx curb weight 3153lbs. 290hp. 224lb-ft

however they did make an nsx-s ZERO, which had substantially less weight, and was considered a race ready out of the box... but good luck finding one, we never got them in the states, and are rare enough in japan too.

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well in that sense you are right. the 1990 nsx had the same power figures and weighed 3036lbs. i think that year was only released in japan though :-?

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250 is enough, it's just that everything weighs too damn much these days. M3 weighs 3,400lbs. the big fat ass.

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i cant find the conversion. what is 280ps converted to hp??? i found the power for the nsx in 1990 it said 280ps and 30kg-m.

and your right LNC, everything weighs alot nowadays. its al because of the useless comfy features that arent needed in a race car. but i guess we dont car because if im gonna shell out 50k for an m3 i want my plush leather seats, my navigation, my premium sound, etc.... but wihtout all of these thing im sure most of the cars would be at3000 or under.

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Can't say I'm too familiar with "ps" or "kg-m". But I do know that it no doubt equals out to 270 hp. @ 7,100 and 210lb.ft. @ 5,300 which is what the NSX has in 1990 when mated to a 5-speed manual. In automatic form, it was more like 252hp.

I enjoy luxury a lot, but the fact that performance cars weigh so much these days because of them, makes me feel even more that there should be the option of ridding the car of all those things. Mandatory safety equipment makes things heavy enough. No need to charge 50k if they aren't there anyway.

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im getting usdm vs everyone else and auto vs manual mixed up. crap, i will just shut up. :lol:

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the original NSX was 260hp with a 5spd stick, now it is available with a 4spd auto hooked to a detuned 252hp variant making 210ft/lb, or a 6spd manual hooked to a 290hp/224ft/lb engine. Either way, the best number i've ever seen for the 350z was 5.4 to 60, pretty fast. The fastest number i've seen for NSX was for a '99 which was 4.8. Most people say the 350z falls 5.4-5.7, and the NSX 5.0-5.2, which makes NSX faster, if not by that much. NSX kills the 350Z in handling. The 350Z just doesn't stand a chance. The NSX's platform is so refined and neutral its scary. You can push it close to 70 through the slalom without even thinking about it, which is scary. The only problem is the price tag on NSX is close to 3X 350Z :D

BTW, the track variant of the 350Z, the most performance oriented weighs in at 3,240 lbs, as opposed to 3,153lbs for the NSX, and if you've seen the mazda RX-8 ads, sports car engineers kill for 90lbs.

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Hallo SpEeDiSaDdIcTiVe,

 

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haha yeah a funny story about the track model 350z.... more show, less go.... i was talking to the brembo reps at a show one time and they said the brembos they put on the 350z are crap, they said they arent much better than stock at all. also the performance model ( mine) outperforms the track model in everything but braking.... which falls short only 5 feet. i guess because of the weight of the car and less sprung weight on the wheels. granted the 350z track has the lightweight wheels, but the rotors are much, much heavier. making my setup actually lighter than the track... IMO people who bought the track model wasted 4g's with that money you could go buy a GOOD brake kit. also i havent heard many tracks turn better than a 14.0 wheras 95% of the performances are running 13.8-13.9, with a few flukes hitting 13.6-13.7 stock. so they make you pay 4k more for a "race ready" car.. i say its a big turd. im happier with my decision, even though i wish i would have gotten the g35 coupe, which i hear doesnt have any of the problems mine does. well for january im looking at a used e46 m3.

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oh and another thing the nsx turns a slalom speed of 65.8 where the 350z does it in 65.5. strangely enough my performance model tested a lateral acceleration of .99g left, .95g right. on a 200ft skid. where the nsx tested a .91g.... i guess the nsx is better because its lower center of gravity, it definetly shifts weight better.

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1990 5-speed NSX has 270hp. and 210lb.ft. from at least one source. Why would Brembo want their name on brakes they consider not that great?

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its not that they arent good, they just arent as good as the other brembos they produce. sure they are better than stock, but 4grand for 5 feet? no thank you.

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where the nsx tested a .91g.... i guess the nsx is better because its lower center of gravity, it definetly shifts weight better.
your talking about the first gen right? im pretty sure they do better than that.
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i'm saying that every time i've seen numbers of an NSX going through a race course against other cars, it always does phenomenally well. It is supremely well balanced, shifts the weight, and the most profound thing about it is that while you may have to be driving your 100% to pull 75% out of some cars, you hardly have to put forth any effort and the NSX is performing amazingly. It is just hard to describe how easy they are to get to perform. Effortless.

It's a good car, just not for the money. It has refinement on damn near everything in the supercar bracket.

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As far as " exotics " go, NSX is about as good a buy as you're likely to get. It's a fabulous driver's car for about 90k, and a Ferrari does not provide 2X the looks, 2X the performance and balance, or 2X anything, except perhaps cylinder count. So, really a Ferrari is a massive rip off, while the NSX is a lot like it's economy car brethren in that it's " cheap ", comfortable, and reliable. It's a great package.

As for the Brembo factory option for the Z. It's probably safe to say that anything like that is just watered down, and made primarily for marketing clout.

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Ouch! Thank god ya'll told me this now i seriously considered in getting one bout 3 months ago.

Then i left it my mind to get a E36 M3 but started to consider it again.

But since i know now that the Track model is jus a bunch of $4,000 waste.

I'd rather spend around $17,000 for a '95 E36 M3 and see if i can get the BMW dealer here

to find me the lightweight version if he could, if not then the regular version.

I was also thinking about trading my SDS '03 Eclipse in order to get the E36 M3. Give me ya'lls opinions on that?

Although i can tell how the reactions r gonna be already, i like 2 see if i'm right or wrong. :P:P

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wanna save money and rip people? enthusiast model 350z. starting price 27k. no options, just fast and sick on a track. i got performance model. the only difference is i have 18s, all sorts of monitors on the cars stats, and traction control.

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27K? Forget that. 350Z is a poseur, if you really want to save money and "rip" people, find a used car that was cutting edge maybe 5 years ago and buy it. Because chances are good, it can still rip most cars on the street, including the 350Z.

It comes down to whether you want your money to go for performance ( old car ) or to pay for some CEO's corn flakes and toilet paper ( new car ). It's your call.

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27K? Forget that. 350Z is a poseur, if you really want to save money and "rip" people, find a used car that was cutting edge maybe 5 years ago and buy it. Because chances are good, it can still rip most cars on the street, including the 350Z.

yeah a used car without a warrenty. and if it was cutting edge then im guessing it was a porsche.. and good luck finding a good one for 27k. and even if you do, good luck making it run. the 350z outperforms a lot of cars, it has a lot of bang for the buck. there is a reason the new boxster will be in the 30k range... because why would people spend 50k more on something that is outperformed by a 30k car.

also explain to me how the 350z is a poseur?

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A good well built car does not need a warranty, it's nice, but not needed. If whether you have a warranty or not effects your purchase then buy a Saturn. There is also such a thing as extended warranty. Porsche is just one cutting edge maker.

350Z is a bit of a poseur because it's running on image, attempting to cash in on the street racer crowd. " Look at me, I have Brembos'! " Whatever. It's not particularly sharp, as big as the engine is, it should probably have more power. My '97 M3 can run with that thing, and beat it in a lot of catagories. It's just rediculous to think a person is going to own the streets in a $27,000 Nissan. If you really want a shot at owning the streets, you can do a lot better in a car that cost 40-50k 5 years ago, thats' what I'm saying. Not only that, but you can't do much to a 350Z without voiding the warranty, so much for that. You have a Z so it's natural to stick up for it, but can you really say that it's the best bang around for that much money? As for new cars, what about the STi and Evo, or Mustang Mach 1 for that matter?

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ill be the first to say that im not pleased by the Z. im not sticking up for it, but its not a poseur. it beats, or performs on par with a lot of respectable cars for a great price. as far as the sti and evo go... the STI is amazing, but 32k. i fell in love with that car when i drove it. but it does not handle as well as the Z. the evo... well the evo is crap. i drove that right after the sti, and it was a waste of time. it is faster than the z from a launch. but off of a roll i beat them every time. not worth 30k. and as far as the mustang... i think new mustangs are the biggest load of crap america produces, aside from the cobra. but even then, it needed a supercharger to be good. find me a car that does 0-60 in 5.4, 1/4 in 13.8, slalom on par with an nsx, and a pulls .99gs on a 200ft skid, all for less than 30k. granted i paid more that 30. i paid 32 for my performance models because it had a few options i liked. i wish i would have waited and bought the sti, or an e46 m3. but come january i am going to buy one. wither the e46 m3, g35 coupe, or sti. i need backseats. the 350z is NOT fast enough to sacrifice back seats. maybe if it was a 12 second car that did the slalom at 70. but its not.

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