Swedens fastest car De Tomaso Pantera

[Seb2]

Is this the best car ever built?. Italian mid engine rwd car with American v8 engine?.

Many people ask me whats the fastest car in Sweden. Fastest for me is not a car that make 8s at 1/4 mile and is noway it can be driven like a normal car on the road. Even if its cool to see one on a streetrace. Fastest car is a car that can turn on a track over 1g. Got a topspeed well over 360km/h and is built for driving on the road.

Check this out. http://hem.passagen.se/hemipanter/ A De Tomaso Pantera with a 8.7l HEMI engine. Very good page written in English where you can see whats a tuned Pantera is up for.

So what if i tell you that in my point of view the fastest car in Sweden is a De Tomaso Pantera from 1972. This car got 750hp with a Keith black 8.3l Chevy Bigblock V8. No charger, nos etc. On the street he uses a kinder cam with 98 octane it gives 650hp. He rubuild the car its now only weigh 1085kg. The Pantera only got 0.29cW. This is a real streetcar with full interior and is driven on the street. This car beats most kind of cars on the racetrack, dragstrip and on the street. Topspeed way over 360km/h. Runs 0-300km/h under 18s. Makes the 1/4 mile under 10s. Thats what i call a fast car.

I got this very good PDF from a mag when they tested the car against the fastest turbo bike. If anyone intrested. Very good pictures of the car but heres some that i found on the net.

Would be funny if other people write about the fastest car they know in their country. Also give a reflection of what you think is a fast car.

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Hallo Seb2,

 

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[riconijhof]

this is our fastest car: The Spyker C8

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[Seb2]

I saw the topgear test of the Spyker im sure theres faster cars in netherlands than that. If you take the tuned ones.

[riconijhof]

ok, I'm going to search for you if there is a faster car built in my country.

[riconijhof]

The only other car produced here is the Donkervoort D8 (looks like a Lotus 7):

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[thepolarfoxqx]

Many Say American Cars simply cannot compete with their more elegant - sophisticated counterparts overseas. Here are what I considder the two fastest american cars.

The first - has handling, power, drivability, and sheer muscle to challenge any car in the world.

The second turns over the world's quickest acceleration numbers (as well as a challenging topspeed).

The First:

Saleen S7:

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With a svelte 2700 lb. curb weight and All Aluminum Ford 7.0L Big Block 16V V8 pumping 550hp and a 7,000 rpm redline - the S7 can move, its advance steel honeycomb frame allows for unprecidented lightness and it's race suspension (yes, from a GT car) allows handling not to be challenged. Engine is midmounted - and a Getrag 6 Speed is the only transmission option.

0-60 mph in 4.2, top speed of 235mph - quarter in low 10s

The Second - The Lingenfelter Twin Turbo Corvette 427 - Accelerates like it were hit by a train

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While no where near the exotic masterpiece of the S7, the TT BigBlock Vette is a masterpiece in its own right. It has raw - unadulterated power.

427 HP General Motors V8 with LS6 Heads, Twin Garrett Turbos and Allied Signal intercoolers, 750 hp at 4,400rpms and 675 ft./lbs. of torque at 4,000 rpms. Available transmissions are the Tremec T56 6 speed manual - or a heavily bolstered (and fitted with a high stall torque convertor) GM HD60LE 4Spd. Automatic transmission.

0-60 - 1.9 sec. (4 spd. autobox)

Quarter: Mid Eights.

Top Speed: Approx 255 mph.

These are fast cars from my country.

[thepolarfoxqx]

I can't wait to see what Roland and Seb put up!

[izzyloveslizzy]

Sorry Seb, I think Sweden's fastest car is the Koenigsegg CC (http://www.koenigsegg.se/). It is a gorgeous super sport car that looks best in black or silver. It is faster and more powerful than a McLaren F1!!! In short, it's got a 655HP Twin-Turbo V8 Engine that also puts out 750Nm maximum Torque. It can accelerate from 0-62.5MPH in 3.2-3.5 seconds, and has a maximum speed of approximately 250MPH (400KPH). I believe it is an all-Swedish car (Engine, Design, Chassis, Features, etc.). Just thought I'd let you know in case you haven't already found out about it yourself!

[thepolarfoxqx]

Christian von Koenigsegg says based on recent high speed trials, the retuned CC should take the world's fastest production car status by year's end. He is debuted a retuned V8 for next year -expected to be super 700hp, and a turbocharged flat twelve is supposed to show up sooner or later .

[izzyloveslizzy]

Yeah I've read about that. If they tweak the Super-Turbo-12 enough, I think they'll get a good 1000HP from it. A car like that should be able to do 313MPH (500KPH) with the right equipment. The Koenigsegg's performance is already pretty amazing, just imagine the next versions. I hope they also look better than this one too because the 2002 CC already looks pretty amazing (especially from the rear 3-quarter view). If they improve on the looks of the car some more it'll be a real winner. In fact I think everything about it screams "super-car". The only thing that I don't love about the Koenigsegg CC is it's interior and Instrument panels. Other than that, I love it.

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Hallo Seb2,

 

schau doch mal hier zum Thema Zubehör für Andere Automarken (Anzeige)? Eventuell gibt es dort etwas Passendes.

[thepolarfoxqx]

well, a new cabrio style has debuted for the 2002 model year, sporting a V8 of about 60 more cubic centimeters displacement, but the same specs. It is a more conventionally beautiful car. There are pictures at koenigsegg's site. In terms of being a supercar, already this is probably the most well rounded supercar around. If he takes the tittle with his ford sourced V8 (yes, the basic design did come from ford), then he will be setting incredible reccords with his masterpiece turbo flat twelve. That will have all of the experience and technology saab and volvo have accumulated at their disposal in design.

My bets are on the swedes.

[Seb2]

Sorry Seb, I think Sweden's fastest car is the Koenigsegg CC (http://www.koenigsegg.se/). It is a gorgeous super sport car that looks best in black or silver. It is faster and more powerful than a McLaren F1!!! In short, it's got a 655HP Twin-Turbo V8 Engine that also puts out 750Nm maximum Torque. It can accelerate from 0-62.5MPH in 3.2-3.5 seconds, and has a maximum speed of approximately 250MPH (400KPH). I believe it is an all-Swedish car (Engine, Design, Chassis, Features, etc.). Just thought I'd let you know in case you haven't already found out about it yourself!

Maby on the paper. Paper is one thing and prove it is another. The new 12cylinder old Subaru F1 engine is gonna rock. But all the plans seems a bit delayed now. The Koenigegg factory just burned down=(. This pantera in the flying and standing mile has beat everything that come in its way. All from tuned 700hp Diablos to 1000hp cars. I think the Koenigegg could do it. But do it is another thing. It has to be faster then cars like Mclaren F1 then.

[izzyloveslizzy]

This message goes out to Seb and Fox. Well again, as I said before, the Koenigsegg CC has not only done it on paper, but it has already beaten even cars like the McLaren F1 in real tests. And Koenigsegg is probably going to be bought by a big mass-producing company and that'll be the end of any factory woes. And as for the 2003 Cabrio Koenigsegg CC, it looks cool, but my beef is with the interior and the new front of the car. Take a look at the front of the 2000 Koenigsegg CC. It was much bette than the 2002/2003 version. And yes, it would be amazing if Koenigsegg, Volvo, and Saab actually joined forces. The Swedes have more than a good chance. The only country that can compete with such a hardcorecombo. would be Germany. And as you very well know, the Germans have recently gone completely nuts, and it won't be long now until you see a 1000HP BMW and a 1050HP Mercedes, following the Renntech SL55K, the Brabus E, the BMW M3/M4/M5/M6/M7, and the Porsche Carrera GT. That's some serious teutonic heavy-metal!!!!

[thepolarfoxqx]

germans (well, except for Lotec) have too much sense to use motors north of 1000hp. Ditto to the swedes. The difference is that all of german firms are competing. They are also putting in only modest efforts. Koenigsegg has all of sweden working trying to help him out in this. He won't sell his company to anyone. Once the very innovative Flat 12 debutes, working with the finest saab turbocharging and electronic controls, the best volvo designs for tuning multi-valve heads, and of course, wind tunnel testing at the Saab Aero facility, you have nice odds.

I wouldn't count out italy or the US on this one.

[izzyloveslizzy]

Well Fox, you're right about not counting out the U.S. or Italy (or the British for that matter). You're also right about Koenigsegg's chances being excellent, because they have all of Sweden (literally) helping them out. But the Germans, because they have too much sense as you said, WOULD make 1000+HP engines, because they'll want to compete with others (and we all know they're good at competing with other countries in every category possible, no matter how crazy it gets). And also, again, as you said yourself, there is fearce competition at the moment between the German companies themselves, and that means that the crazy Horse-Power race is going to go on and on for a long time, with Mercedes Benz, Porsche, Audi, and BMW not wanting to give up the race, each continuously coming up with stronger engines. In fact, I think if anyone can leave the Koenigsegg team in the dust, it will be Mercedes-Benz super cars such as the upcoming Mercedes-Benz-/McLaren SLR. And not only that, but there are numerous German companies and sub-companies tweaking already powerful German cars in competition with each other, such as AMG, Brabus, Renntech, Lorinser, etc. (although Lorinser is actually more into modifying the looks than modifying the performance). Add to that the Volkswagen's/Audi's W-16 being designed and tested right now (according to different sources), and rumours of V-16/W-16 engines in the works by Mercedes Benz and BMW, and you've got yourself a country that can leave everyone dumb-founded, with super-cars that look and perform like they came from the distant future. And not only that, but also there are the disadvantage of the Germans, in that they are not specifically into Sports Cars (except maybe the Porsche GT, and the upcoming SLR). Also, the Germans are not working together to beat the rest of the world, because they don't necessarily see others as any significant threats, since they are almost all-powerful in their auto-industry. Koenigsegg, on the other hand, has the reputation of all of Sweden being in their hand, and Volvo and Saab have to worry about this as well when they help Koenigsegg out, to ensure that they're small country can compete and actually come out on top when they are going against so many innovative countries with so much potential, like Germany, Italy, France, Japan, Britain, U.S.A., and now Korea wanting a piece. I wouldn't be surprised to see others joining this race as well. So there you go, although the Swedes have a very good chance of beating everyone in this supposed race, and coming out on top, they still have a lot to worry about.