89' Toyota Supra NA vs. 94' Honda Prelude VTEC

[chris89]

I've got a 89' supra w/ 2.5inch cat-back, short-ram intake, and a performance muffler and The Prelude's got a performance muffler and a Cold-Air Intake.

[bleh]

... find out and let us know

[chris89]

I'm just wondering what everyone thinks who will win. What car do you think would win?

[bleh]

in this instance, it all depends on the driver not the car. im sure i could take both of you in my civic but dont take that to heart. im just a decent driver.

[LateNightCable]

Which would win, under what conditions? I'd take the Supra to drag with for sure, and I would probably favor the handling too, RWD and all.

[bleh]

but you know the prelude is lighter. i dont know what the na supra runs but a good driver can throw down a 15s timeslip in the luder without a problem.

[chris89]

Well, I know the supra could blow the prelude off the road on the high-end, "Pulls Hardcore" 150+MPH stock, but off the line....I don't know...Prelude's are pretty quick tho...4banger tho...

[LateNightCable]

Yeah, I'm thinking that even though the Prelude is lighter, the Supra's six could push it pretty hard on the strip. The Lude might have a chance on a tighter track, but then keeping the revs high might be a problem. It might be running the mild cams most of the time, as the VTEC doesn't kick in until about 5,200 I believe.

I'm a big fan of the Prelude though.

[chris89]

yeah, before i bought the supra, i was putting serious thought into getting a vtec prelude "Love the sound of the vtec" but i was like, i want something rare and fast, so i just got a supra instead. I want a good video or something that Clearly records the "Vtec kick-in" yeah know?? like once it hits 5500 rpm it hits a whole different sound "it's awesome" Isn't that just Variable Valve Timing?? like my friends got an 04' Mazda 3 with the 2.3L DOHC Variable intake valve timing...

[bleh]

variable valve timing is more advanced than vtec. vtec has actually been made a dinosaur by vtec-e, ivtec, and other variable timing schemes.

regular vtec just has 2 cam lobs which it will switch between. vtec-e has 3 cam lobes OR different lobs for different valves(usually intake). i-vtec changes everything. individual cam timing with different lobs. there are a lot of flexibilities and i dont have the slightest clue as to how non honda lift works.

also the vtec engagement is controlled by oil pressure so the engangement point will vary quite a great deal depending on if the engine is ready for it.

as far as the comparison goes i think the prelude will have the upper hand in any rolling situation in 3rd gear or under. from a dig.... the supra should be the victor

[iroc-z89]

hey throw this situation against my Iroc, but rolling with a 85' supra Na soon to be turbo who would win? i think the car weighs between 200-2500lbs. im an old heavy clunker

[bleh]

depends, before or after turbo, and what setup. the turbo setup has everything to do with it. n/a you will stomp him, but ive seen some pretty fast oldschool supras