Chrysler ME Four-Twelve

[thepolarfoxqx]

first off, their numbers are the slowest i've ever seen posted for that car. Jeremy did the quarter as fast as the factory claimed it to be possible in. The fact that the people who did that article were so incompetent that they could not get the car to perform well, i have to question their analisys. Seccondly, an SLR redlines at 6,000 and is geared much taller, so it has to make more low end. The top gear in the CC is tall, and isn't for accelerating 50-70. When Road and Track drove the CC, they said it had the most powerful thrust of any car they'd driven. The fact that article says the torque curve of a CC is like that of a turbocharged car shows how little they know. Torque curves from turbocharged cars drop off at high end, the torque curve of CC looks naturally aspirated. Also, the CCR does the quarter in 9.0 and has a deeper torque curve.

I could tear that article apart at every juncture, it's just a sad example of automotive journalism.

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Hallo Thunf,

 

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[Thunf]

first off, their numbers are the slowest i've ever seen posted for that car. Jeremy did the quarter as fast as the factory claimed it to be possible in. The fact that the people who did that article were so incompetent that they could not get the car to perform well, i have to question their analisys. Seccondly, an SLR redlines at 6,000 and is geared much taller, so it has to make more low end. The top gear in the CC is tall, and isn't for accelerating 50-70. When Road and Track drove the CC, they said it had the most powerful thrust of any car they'd driven. The fact that article says the torque curve of a CC is like that of a turbocharged car shows how little they know. Torque curves from turbocharged cars drop off at high end, the torque curve of CC looks naturally aspirated. Also, the CCR does the quarter in 9.0 and has a deeper torque curve.

I could tear that article apart at every juncture, it's just a sad example of automotive journalism.

Most tests only does reviews on how much money they get. Take Top-Gear... one week a Nissan was one of the worst car to drive, the next weak on the very same model there was not a single point on the car they could complain on... I'm sick and tired when you clearly see this 'bribe-acting' going on... or how I should put it...

[LateNightCable]

Eggy =

[thepolarfoxqx]

well cable, you don't need to follow the eggy if you don't want to. we can.

and i'd be interested to see how you feel about the automotive press. I am dissapointed with them in general, especially as of late. I totally agree with thunf.

[mv]

well those data seemed odd to me as well...but i still seriously doubt that in a 1/4 mile drag the cc8s is faster than an enzo by 1.1s CCR might be i guess but not the s version

[thepolarfoxqx]

the enzo is fast, but it's built specifically for the track, what the CC gives up the enzo on the track, my feeling is that it would make up for in a straight line. The CC8S doesn't weight much either.

[LateNightCable]

well cable, you don't need to follow the eggy if you don't want to. we can.

and i'd be interested to see how you feel about the automotive press. I am dissapointed with them in general, especially as of late. I totally agree with thunf.

In a Chrysler thread, be my guest.

Well, I don't read automotive journalism like I used to. But it really is dependent on how knowledgable the writer/testers are. Magazines taking kick backs probably goes on too, but when it comes to testing cars, one can only lie through their teeth so much.

I think a lot of it has to do with the fact that automotive testing itself is not an exact science.

[thepolarfoxqx]

i've seen the same magazine compare the same cars unchanged one year, then again the next, with totally different conclusions. you can get something from the automotive press, but don't hold it is gospel, take it with a grain of salt.

[mv]

Could this be taken as a proof that the CCR is unable to do 1/4 mile in 9s flat and Mr. Koenigsegg is not credible?

http://www.sscautos.com/specifications.asp

908bhp,2720lbs,1/4 in 10.44 at 138 mph

I admit that the CCR might do it in 10s (officially claimed time for the CC8s) but definitely not in 9s.

Lets take the Chrysler ME-412 - 850hp,double clutch tranny,2880lbs and the projected 1/4 mile time is 10.6s

[thepolarfoxqx]

keep in mind, power to weight isn't any better on ME412 and that has turbo lag to contend with and a shorter torque curve. Superchargers like the lyscholm on the koenigsegg offer a pretty sweet deal.

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Hallo Thunf,

 

schau doch mal hier zum Thema Andere Automarken (Anzeige)? Eventuell gibt es dort etwas Passendes.

 

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[LateNightCable]

Though I'm not sure how much turbo lag a twelve cylinder car with four turbos would have to deal with. The Bugatti EB110 didn't have much at all if I recall.

But the ME412 is a dream with projected numbers. If all that matters is making a slingshot, well that's easy.

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maybe a 16 cylinder may be used u get just as much pwer but much more torque and minus the turbo lag but then it would weigh a lot with a engine that size in it 8)