Testdrive the KoenigsEgg

[GIR]

Drive one of the most spectacular cars ever constructed for road use. Koenigsegg is now offering prospective buyers to test-drive the Koenigsegg CC on both racetrack and road. The package includes everything from travel to accomodation at an exclusive hotel near the establishment.

Take the time to explore an exciting region in Europe. For further information, please contact Koenigsegg in Sweden.

Koenigsegg Automotive AB

Diligensenvägen 2

SE-266 98 Hjärnarp, Sweden

Tel: +46 431 45 44 60

Fax: +46 431 45 44 61

I don't know about you guyz but I'm thinking of driving there and testing the crap out one of those Eggies. Ofcourse I can't afford one but don't tell them that

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Hallo GIR,

 

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[Dresol]

Koenigsegg checks your background before you can set foot in one of those cars. If you wreck the car, then you should have to money to pay for the wreck you made, that's why they are checking your background.

[GIR]

And you know this how? Because it's common practice for car dealers and such to have insurance for these kinda things.

[djfux69]

yeah its definetly insured otherwise they would even have the test drive. its insured for 2 reasons (but they both coincide). 1 if you damadge the car they cant expect someone to pay for it up front, of course this would be nice, but then the playing feild for who could buy the car gets a lot smaller. i would think they would expect a good portion of potetial buyers to be rich- very rich, but even then maybe finance the car. 2 if you get hurt or killed driving the car they need back up, obviously if you lose control and hurt yourself you could sue them, in which case they would lose a hell of a lot of money. with insurance they pay a deductable.

[thepolarfoxqx]

yes, it is insured, and the insurance policy dictates they do a full background check on you first, else the insurance is void. It is called Risk Management for a reason.

[Dresol]

And you know this how? Because it's common practice for car dealers and such to have insurance for these kinda things.

I know this because the Koenigsegg you're going to testdrive, is sold and owned by a german. A friend of my father said this when he tested it. It isn't everybody either that are allowed to test drive the Koenigsegg. You have to have a racing license or not pass 70km/t.

The driver from the Norwegian car program wasn't allowed to drive the Koenigsegg because the german owner didn't thrust him because he didn't have a racing license. He could drive it if the owner sat next to him and didn't pass 70km't. Kind of stupid huh?!!

[GIR]

Uuum why would KoenigsEgg need a car from a german buyer for test driving purposes? They can easily build one themselves.

That text comes from the KoenigsEgg site. If they're going to offer testdrives to people then I guess they would apoint a seperate car for just that purpose.

I think your fathers friend drove in a Egg sold by a person, these testdrives are being offerd by KoenigsEgg themselves.

Check like Fox said are common practice. Check wether you have a criminal history and wether you have caused some mayor accidents, but not a full background check which would suggest a financial and personal background check aswell.

[LateNightCable]

I can think of quite a few people with a substantial criminal history, who might be in the market for a supercar - starting with the letters NFL . Beggers should not be choosers, at least in the case of sportscars, thats' what Eggy needs to learn. Mind your own business, and give me the damn keys!

[Dresol]

Uuum why would KoenigsEgg need a car from a german buyer for test driving purposes? They can easily build one themselves.

[thepolarfoxqx]

well, actually they can. Money is tight, but they have a lot of funding. A lot. A lot of wealthy swedes would love to see swedish industrial prestige go up by seeing the world's fastest production car be one of theirs.

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Hallo GIR,

 

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[GIR]

Volvo, Saab, Mercedes, Ford. All are on the list of KoenigsEgg money shooters. I would guess they would atleast have a prototype or something, KoenigsEgg himself drivers around in a prototype, why can't they haveone from promotional purposes.

[thepolarfoxqx]

truly, koenigsegg is a smart guy, in a socialist country, funding for projects like his come easy.

[LateNightCable]

Eggy is a smart guy, and what he's doing is easy. So what does that mean?

It would not be that expensive to build a few spare cars. Most of an exotic car's pricing is all markup anyway, everyone knows that, or should. It's not like they have to pay themselves MSRP. Just materials and labor.

[Wiley]

Eggy is a smart guy, and what he's doing is easy. So what does that mean?

It would not be that expensive to build a few spare cars. Most of an exotic car's pricing is all markup anyway, everyone knows that, or should. It's not like they have to pay themselves MSRP. Just materials and labor.

LOL! Build a few spare cars? You have no idea do you? First of all, try building a supercar made of over 300 pieces of carbonfibre, kevlar, titanium and aluminium monocoque. Then try doing it while developing your own solutions for throttle, chassis, exhaust, practically building a new engine from scratch (yes, its built on a ford block but from what they've done with it you could never tell) and then try doing it in a socialist country where luxuries are considered an unnecessary evil and you pay 65% tax for all workers (believe me, I know, I live there). Also, according to Koenigsegg, each car takes about 3 months to build, full production time (and they're not even there yet).

Believe me, Koenigsegg prob only get about 20% of what they get paid for each car as profit.

Also, since they're so behind in deliveries (mainly because their facilities burned to the ground) all cars they make go to resellers or internal testing. Often the resellers are kind and let Koenigsegg keep or lend their cars for customer test-drives.

[GIR]

Actually I guess you have no idea! My company does develop allkinds of stuff on a regular basis (including DAF diesel engines) and we do have several prototypes and showcases lying around. We are one of the few companies in the world who have a fully operational CD/DVD pressing line.

You could say to me, try developing a advanced piece of machinery which uses carbonfibre, kevlar, titanium, gold and aluminium but I already have.

KoenigsEgg does have atleast one showcar which he himself has been driving around since 1996. If he can afford to have a car for personal use, he sure can afford to build a few showcars. Every company has showcars, nomatter how big the development is, it is essential for marketing.

A profitmargin of 20% is alot, if he can mantian a 20% profit margin and sell the cars for the price he does then he's my hero. Specially in the car industry where competition is tuff. He's selling the cars for about 250.000 euro. If 20% of that is profit then he recieves 50.000 euro per car. If he makes about 25 cars a year then he earns 50.000 * 25 = 1.250.000 euro a year. That's serious money!

[Wiley]

He doesnt have one for personal use, trust me. I think he drives a BMW. They lend cars from their reseller as show cars. Remember, this is a small company.

They used to have an old 2000 model (with old headlight design) but I think they used it for crash testing.

My point was that it's easy to say, "Build a few more cars" but hard to do in real life. If you're in the business you should know!

They cant afford to build 4 new cars, say two at the same time, each taking about 3 months to build and costing about 500 000 USD, and then use them as show cars for people to test drive, while having customers that have been waiting for theirs for over three years. They dont have the money, and they dont have the time. They need to get the cars on the street.

About profit margins, you prob know more than I do. To me it sounds little, selling a car for 600 000 USD and only 20% as profit. And it's probably less, as you say. Anyway, as it is now they have 0 profit since all their money is invested in developing and building the cars and their new offices.

[LateNightCable]

If they can't afford to build a few extra cars, then I would say they are running in broke, in which case I would have to ask why they are on business at all. If anyone has prototypes lying around, it's Eggy afterall.

I think they're being a bit over obsessive, they are spending so much time, and so many resources attempting to create a product that is perfect the first time out , which is comendable, but failing to recognize that few things are ever " perfect ". But that does not mean they are not good enough.

They are obsessing about details, when they should be selling cars. If Eggy indeed can't afford some extra cars, this is why.

[GIR]

He doesnt have one for personal use, trust me. I think he drives a BMW. They lend cars from their reseller as show cars. Remember, this is a small company.

They used to have an old 2000 model (with old headlight design) but I think they used it for crash testing.

My point was that it's easy to say, "Build a few more cars" but hard to do in real life. If you're in the business you should know!

They cant afford to build 4 new cars, say two at the same time, each taking about 3 months to build and costing about 500 000 USD, and then use them as show cars for people to test drive, while having customers that have been waiting for theirs for over three years. They dont have the money, and they dont have the time. They need to get the cars on the street.

About profit margins, you prob know more than I do. To me it sounds little, selling a car for 600 000 USD and only 20% as profit. And it's probably less, as you say. Anyway, as it is now they have 0 profit since all their money is invested in developing and building the cars and their new offices.

He has been driving around in a prototype giving interviews and having magazines test it since 1996. It's a model with the old swing doors instead of the new popup doors.

I've seen that same and exact car popup on magazines and carshows all over the world sinze 1996. He's been driving around with it to promotions and such.

The development costs and operational overhead should be included in the final selling price. Maybe their investors or banks want to see some of their money back but that is spread over a longer term.

I don't think they have much debt because most of the development costs have been forwarded by the big investors which have a share in the company. KoenigsEgg isn't a public company so they don't have to file any public reports but as an external observer it's not that hard to tell that they 're a very healthy company.

Maybe they can't build any extra showcars because of the high demand but most of the showcars are prototypes. Take BMW for instance. Currently their priority for the E60 is to answer the preorders so it's almost impossible to get a testride. But for rich customers and magazines they have a set of prototypes lying around. I'm sure KoenigsEgg also has atleast one of the prototypes lying around as a showcar.

[Wiley]

Well, they are financially healthy in the way that they have no debt, as you say, and they dont have "crisis". But they don’t have tons of money lying around either. There have been many times in the company's history when they have been close to putting the whole thing down because of lack of funds. Luckily, they have been surrounded by friends, both individuals and corporations that like the project and would like to see them succeed.

I think the worst is behind them though. The new offices will enable them to build up an efficient production line, with several assembly stations going at the same time. The main problem for production is the parts which are delivered by small, specialized companies and can not be produced in high quantities on short notice.

Hopefully they will soon get the production up to their targeted 15 cars a year and when they do, they will be much more financially independent and secure. Then maybe they will have time and money to "Build a few cars" for themselves. :-)

Oh, and I think the prototype can hardly be used as a show car. It is just so far away from the final product, both technically and appearance wise. Also, he doesn’t drive around in it personally, from what I know it doesn’t even run that well, it was mostly used for testing the body aerodynamics and chassis construction.