LateNightCable Erster Beitrag: 7. Juli 2003 Letzter Beitrag: 17. August 2003 I have noticed that some people here think Toyotas are no good. How can you say that? You have the bland but trusty Camry , every Lexus is basically a Toyota and Lexus' are renowned for their refinement 8) . Also the racy Celica, MR2, and the old Supra - who can honestly say those are " bad " cars?