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So. Hab' ihn gesehen. Unverhüllt. Hab' ihn betrachtet. Rundherum. Hab' ihn aufgemacht. Überall. Hab' mich reingesetzt. Pause. Und war verfallen. Hoffnungslos.

Man darf sehr gespannt sein. Technik-Freaks werden definitiv auf ihre Kosten kommen. In aber auch allen Belangen.

Weiter werde ich nichts verraten. Nur noch ein reisserisches Wort, um die Vorfreude bei der Vollgas-Fraktion zu erhöhen: Zweivordemkomma.

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Bin auch sehr gespannt. Die Bilder des getarnten Autos lassen ein etwas gestreckteres, fast schon elegantes Design vermuten. Will Lamborghini Aston Martin-Fahrer abfischen und auch für gesetztere Ferrari-Besitzer eine Alternative werden? Am Donnerstag, vielleicht schon am Mittwoch werde ich zumindest das Concept sehen.

:-))! Gefällt mir auch wesentlich besser als die nachfolgenden Murcielagos im pseudomodernen/futuristischen Design inkl. Wörtherseeendtopf, LED, etc.

Gleiches gilt auch für den Gallardo.

Meine Rede! Am besten in Gelb.

...oder wenigstens wie lange wir uns noch gedulden müssen??
Das Fahrzeug wird erst in Genf 2011 der Öffentlichkeit präsentiert werden. Auch der Name wird erst dann bekannt gegeben. Aber Vorfreude ist ja bekanntlich die schönste Freude :wink: .
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Hallo Colin16,

 

schau doch mal hier zum Thema Lamborghini Aventador (Anzeige)? Eventuell gibt es dort etwas Passendes.

 

Der V16 Motor zum Selberbauen (Anzeige) ist auch genial.

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Aus einem anderen Forum von einem schwedischen Kollegen:

A quick google translate i made from a mail from the Swedish dealer.

"There has been speculation in quantities around Lamborghini's products in the future. Especially around the new successor, replacing the Lamborghini Murcielago LP640-4. By the following information, we present more facts and details than ever before narrated.

The commercial name of the new successor to be presented at the Geneva Fair in March 2011 is a closely guarded secret, as only two people so far are said to have knowledge of. The technical working title is LB83X.

This time it started with a full white paper! To develop a new "top of the line" supercar for Lamborghini, takes place only every ten years. For this reason, it is especially exciting for Automobili Lamborghini, but also for us as an importer of Lamborghini to Sweden, the car will be received by the market.

Lamborghini Stockholm and Torbjörn von Braun has been presented and reviewed the two very first pre-production cars and can attest that the objective of Lamborghini - to develop and sell the world's most desirable and accessible supercar, now likely to become reality soon. The market has never before been offered to such a serious advanced super sports car in a price range around three million Swedish kronor! It is during the introduction thus priced nearly 5 million less than worthy competitors' cars in the corresponding segment costs!

The new car will be individual to take 50% of Lamborghinifabrikens resources and keep 200 people employed, to which most produce four cars a day on the new produktionslinans 11 workstations! Only 5-7 cars expected to arrive at the Lamborghini Stoc kholm in 2011, which will be allocated to the Swedish, Norwegian and Finnish markets. Lamborghini begins delivering out the first market cars to the dealer immediately after the Geneva Fair in April. Then we can expect to see the first customer deliveries in May, June, July and August.

After discussions and review of the car along with Fire & Design Director - Manfred Fitzgerald and R & D Director - Maurizio Reggiani, this is the Lamborghini Stockholm proud that this could be among the first in the world to report a deeper level of detail than any other surrounding Lamborghini's new supercar.

Kolfibermonocoque, chassis and body construction

The new car is based around an advanced digitally produced monocoque chassis of carbon fiber composite design with patented RTM structural reinforcements. It has a vridmomentskoofficient the entire 32 000 nautical miles per degree as measured by shock absorber mounting. It works with fabrics of both pre-Preger and pre-press version some with a more targeted fiber. Monocoque total weight is 147.5 kg. For this purpose, the Lamborghini has built a brand new carbon composite & Title of 4500 square meters factory in Sant 'Agata Bolognese. The factory is fully climate-controlled 12 months a year and includes two autoclaves, laser cutters for fabrics and laser trimming of the finished, pre-press equipment and CMM - digitally-controlled workstation which allows only a maximum of 1 mm tolerance for the entire car chassis design. The car kolfibermonocoque supplemented by a roof of carbon fiber, and aluminiumsubframes front and rear. Doors, fenders and fronthuv are made of aluminum and other body panels in the composite, while the bumpers are made of a special flexible and contoured composite.

Perfection and quality pervades the entire car's design. With the new car takes Lamborghini two steps forward and skip a whole generation of sports cars. It runs from contemporary Italian home-built dinosaurs to the future of extreme super sports cars with the best technology much of which actually comes from Sweden! You have selected Swedish world leading Öhlins as supplier for its pushrodfjädring in true super sports car spirit, which the dampers are visible in the engine compartment and through the back window somhar features taken from the last Super Veloce. Front suspension is also standard equipped with a "lifting" system and kränghämmare at 81.7 N / mm, which helps to balance out the car's low center role. Swedish Haldex supplies fyrhjulsdrivlinan and Swedish Atlas Copco stands for electrical digital-quality tools to ensure proper torque for each screw in the assembly. Some modern features that we are not accustomed to find in the super sports cars with low weight has been an important part of the objective is "passive pedestrain Protection System", "Keyless Go", 8x airbags including knee airbags, fully self-produced seats with airbag sensors to shut off at the light and small passengers. As yet another step in the developed quality awareness as Lamborghini, so have a new supplier of leather contracted. All leather is scanned to detect defects, also less than what the naked eye can see and then use only the flawless lots of skin. Almost all vehicle manufacture uses A-leather on the outcrops and B leather on the rear, roof and sides, etc.. For the Lamborghini is only AA approved leather regardless of where it should be used, which usually consists of less than 30% of the whole dermis.

Design

For the first time we see a clear design language on a super sports car, which goes all the way outside-in. The classic saxdörrarna is still around. We can see that several soft racial strains are from the 60th century, Lamborghini 350 GT and 450 GT models in front of his nose. At the same time are extreme designs with parables to the concept car Estoque in the rear, but with a much bigger attitude. In profile, the car has a sharp side marker resembling McLaeren F1 sideline. Side-Line has a steep climb back released and runs with a sharp concave folds over the otherwise rounded rear fender. A large air intakes on the side and from above you can see the indented waist of the car in order to optimize drag that has a CWX value of 0.68. Some of the body's lines run all the way from the front of the nose and above the ceiling on to the large folded wing. The ceiling has been raised two batches - one for the driver and the passenger. On closer scrutiny reveals that these soft elevations are marked folds with a clear alignment. Other body lines running from the front, follow all the way into the dashboard and into the center console. The entire interior bears a clear Lamborghini DNA and a unique design language which makes itself felt through the entire car. It could result in everyone in the car with a blindfold and when he sees, he will be able to determine automakers in seconds by the characteristic sharp Y-formation language appearing on consoles, switches and panels. The instrumentation is completely new, with a central digital meter in front of the driver. The center position can be exchanged between the speedometer and rev counter, where you get the secondary data center shown in the smaller shape within the main meter. Most beautiful spots of the car is in our opinion, obliquely from the front, diagonally from behind and from above. Frontnos respective rear ends of its exhaust outlets are centered in all beauty liberating grotesque, vulgar and a cheeky attitude that will make previous models and most other supercars feel pale!

The rear features an integrated wing as it rises, the parables of the two weakly arched wings. The front lamps are of triangular shape but with the cut-off points so that they become pentagonal. Unlike its competitors, so we feel like Lamborghini, happily, not been towards larger sizes and designs, but rather maintained the proportions from the previous model to maintain a genuinely low super sports car character.

Specifications & Prices:

Price: Displayed around 270 000 euros excluding local taxes and VAT.

The equipment level is high from the beginning and a lot is included as standard, including sequential box, key-less go, lifting systems, ceramic brakes and more.

Engine: 6.5 liter 60 ° V12.

700 hp at 8250 rpm.

690 NM at 5,500 rpm.

Four valves per cylinder, variable valve timing, four blocks and bolted generally better elasticity.

Euro 5, CO2 emissions 398g/km. 17.2 l / 100km.

Four-wheel drive and Transmission: Haldex four-wheel drive with seven speed Sequential CFK Triple Cone Syncronized with ISR system consisting of an actuator for each gear shift instead of a double clutch. The exchange rate is at 50 milliseconds with genuine emotional mechanical sequential race feeling the heavy load and a real flexibility in the soft load.

5 Driving Mode variations: Strada, Sport, Corsa, ESP off / on.

Performance: 0-100 km / h 2.9 secs, top speed> 350 km / h,

Air resistance: CWX A 0.68

Weight: 100 kg lighter than the LP640-4, ie 1560 kg

Wheels: 19 inch front and 20 inches rear.

Safety: Pedestrain Protection System, 2-stage airbags, Total 8 pieces included airbag airbags for the knees.

The possibility of closer acquaintance with you:

8 to 11 November 2010, presentation in Sant'Agata for selected customers.

April 27 to May 8 2011th Dealers and influential journalists invited to the Vallelunga circuit for a test drive.

Order Portal of Lamborghini opens in December.

Subscription orders are now being made.

Deliveries will start in May / June."

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Thank you very much for the comprehensive explanation. I am already looking forward to have the possibility to see the car.

On technical side I positively noticed the sequential gearbox. Price seems to be OK.

On the other side only looking on the facts it seems to be a LP670 (same weight, and no significant reduction as announced) with additional 30 hp, sequential gearbox and new design. So finally the design will be the most important change and I am already looking forward if the new design can impress me more than a LP670.

On technical side I positively noticed the sequential gearbox. Price seems to be OK.

On the other side only looking on the facts it seems to be a LP670 (same weight, and no significant reduction as announced) with additional 30 hp, sequential gearbox and new design. So finally the design will be the most important change and I am already looking forward if the new design can impress me more than a LP670.

Der Nachfolger des Murciélago ist ein komplett - und damit meine ich komplett - neu konstruiertes Fahrzeug. Weder Chassis, Motor, (Allrad-)Antrieb, Getriebe, Radaufhängungen noch Materialien von Chassis und Karosserie etc. pp. wurden vom Murciélago übernommen. Der Innenraum ist auch aus Leder..., das ist gleich geblieben. Und die Flügeltüren.

Es ist eigentlich sogar nur noch das Design, welches ihn bereits auf den ersten Blick weiterhin als Lamborghini der alten Schule ausweist. Die Technik und die Leistungswerte aber hat es so aus St. Agata Bolognese noch nie gegeben. Beides ist bei den Wettbewerbern gar nicht, nur als Gebrauchtwagen oder zu um 300% bis 400% höheren Preisen zu haben.

wird es wieder die Wahl zwischen Handschalter und einem Sequenziellen (oder gar Doppelkupplungsgetriebe) geben?
Keine Handschaltung mehr. Das Fahrzeug verfügt über ein völlig neu konstruiertes 7-Gang-Getriebe. Keine "Doppelkupplung", aber ähnliche Schaltzeiten.

Das ist aber schade :-(

Denn eigentlich hat gerade zu Lamborghini das martialische Handschaltungsgetriebe mit der offenen Schaltkulisse gehört. Das hat einfach gepasst, wie die Faust auf´s Auge. Brachial, martialisch, kompromisslos!

Aber das neue Ding wird sicher auch eine tolle Entwicklung sein. Trotzdem schade, um die Schaltkulisse. :(

Keine Handschaltung mehr. Das Fahrzeug verfügt über ein völlig neu konstruiertes 7-Gang-Getriebe. Keine "Doppelkupplung", aber ähnliche Schaltzeiten.

wie war das noch mit der seele? keine handschaltung? kein kauf! das wird sich bei mir wohl auch niemals ändern

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Wieder mal etwas Öl ins Feuer geben, damit die Gerüchte-Küche etwas zu tun hat :D

Hier ein Video über den zerkratzten und verbeulten "Jota" auf dem Ring, wo es ja bereits Bilder davon zu sehen gab :wink:

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Grüsse

Das sind auch mindestens zwei Autos (einmal italienisches Probefahrtskennzeichen seitlich versetzt vorne, einmal breites (evtl deutsches) Kennzeichen mittig vorn). Außerdem fahren die da tatsächlich stundenlang um den Kurs und wenn man da den ganzen Tag verbringt, kann man durchaus viele Aufnahmen von den Wagen machen (spreche da aus Erfahrung).

Haldex bei einem Mittelmotorwagen= wenn Schlupf an der Hinterachse auftritt, macht die Kupplung für die Vorderachse zu?? Wurde da evtl. der Alllradantrieb des Bugatti Veyron adaptiert, der hat ja auch Haldex. :???:

Haldex bei einem Mittelmotorwagen= wenn Schlupf an der Hinterachse auftritt, macht die Kupplung für die Vorderachse zu?? Wurde da evtl. der Alllradantrieb des Bugatti Veyron adaptiert, der hat ja auch Haldex. :???:

Nee das stimmt imho so nicht mehr. Meiner letzten Info nach kann mittlerweile auch der Haldex ohne Schlupf auf die Hinterachse Druck geben.

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