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Old 12-14-02, 09:26 PM   #11
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Last Sunday I visited the presentation of the Cayenne at the Porsche-center Berlin. A very nice car, on the first pictures the car looked not very good, but live...wow! With the 20" wheels and the dark blue colour!
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Old 12-15-02, 12:33 AM   #12
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I think that like most new things, its styling will grow on people . For now, it isn't getting many positive reviews from the Porsche faithful. I didn't like it at first, but I am starting to get used to it. Sure, it isn't a 911, but for an SUV it looks pretty sporty and sharp. But, I still won't fork over the 90K for a fast SUV, when I could spend that money on a real Porsche... .
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But, I still won't fork over the 90K for a fast SUV, when I could spend that money on a real Porsche... .
Some people still own a 911 and want to have a fast Porsche SUV. For 90k I also would buy a 911.
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there is very little utility in a porsche, mercedes, or BMW SUV. For kicks, driver the bimmer, porsche, ferrari, for utility, buy a ford.
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Old 12-17-02, 02:40 AM   #15
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Or a Chevy...
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chevy makes a nice rig. many of my relatives swear by suburbans, personally, i think they handle like school busses (though have nice engines). I guess I'm just a ford truck man, that's all I drive. I see no need for a luxury SUV unless it can deliver on the utility side, otherwise just buy a sedan or coupe that handles better, costs less, and is faster.

Otherwise, Ford/Lincoln/Mercury makes an awful nice line of SUVS - indapendant suspension, vsc, and all. When I want a fast car, I'll buy a bmw or a porsche, when I need to haul heavy loads, I won't.
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Old 12-18-02, 02:18 AM   #17
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Understandable, Fox. It's all a matter of one's needs. We need the SUV space to haul our children and friends kids' to soccer or whatever. We test drove the Excursion, and it drove more like a bus than the Sub. I was enticed by the diesel in the Ford, but the wife couldn't get past the excessive wandering. If I had my way, she would have a wagon, and I would have a Super Duty .
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Amen.

In reality are these luxuxry SUVs any more useful than a comperable sedan? It seems that it is all image, no function. For the money, get the car that performs better, and for hauling, that is what superduty and suburban are for.

I have never driven an excursion, but the new expedition/navigator and explorer/mountaineer/aviator are pretty impressive. Aviator accelerates and handles toe to toe with an X5, costs the same, tows much more, and has much more cargo space. In terms of rocket sleds, the germans are king, in terms of trucks, i feel this is the american's game.
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Although I'm not an SUV fan, I tihnk that the Porsche Cayenne is amazing. It has the space of a truck, but the turbo Cayenne was clocked faster than the Boxster S in both 0-100 acceleration and the Cayenne posted better lap times than a Boxster S. Amazing performance, space to carry plenty of people, and the space to keep your groceries, some golf bags, or tools and repair things. Also has absolutely amazing off-road capabilities. A truly versatile vehicle.

And to hte Porsche purists that claim a truck isn't right from Porsche, take a look back into the history and you'll find that this isn't the first truck. The built one for the German military, but it was too expensive for them. They also built tractors and stuff.
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Also, a Porsche official said that most of the profits from cayenne will go into racing to try and get some more things there. I would LOVE to see a porsche LMP car smoking the Audis. So let's remember that Porsche is going back to its roots, not straying from them and the profit will surely benefit racing fans and porsche owners alike (more racing R&D money means much more research, more research means better technology, better technology means faster "real" porsches).
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