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Old 07-30-03, 05:56 PM   #1
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Default Pagani Zonda. Supreme Road Machine?

With a 7.3 liter Mercedes V12, top speed in excess of 220 mph, 0-60 in 3.6 seconds, and the most exotic body style going, is it king of the road?
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Old 07-30-03, 06:46 PM   #2
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Very good the Zonda - the body style is very cool and not so normal.

But the koenigsegg is my favourite! It has a little bit better facts: top 235 mph, 0-60 in 3,5s, only V8 but swedish!
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the koenigsegg easily takes on a Zonda, it's ford designed, swedish modified 4.6L V8 is good for 655hp, topping the output from the 7.3L Mercedes AMG V12, the CC is just a higher performing machine, it threatens to take fastest production car status away from the McLaren F1, and it has great avante garde design like the doors. Plus, it's from sweden.
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I wouldn't be so sure. The KoenigsEgg has a very sleak design, an airresistance factor of just 0.30. TopGear tested both cars on their track and they both scored the same time, infact the Zonda was just 0.10 secs faster but that's neglectable.

Anywayz this means that both cars have been pushed to the limit when it comes to handeling. On a straight I'm sure the Egg could beat the Zonda.
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well, actually, on the top gear acceleration test, CCV8S did beat Zonda, i don't take top gear's results very seriously though. They test the car once, there are enough intangibles that could throw things off that unless both cars are tested repeatedly under similar circumstances, I wouldn't worry about it too much.

A temperature difference of 10F and dewpoint difference of 10F could easily have moved the track time more than .1 secconds, so you have to look at conditions too when you track test.
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well, actually, on the top gear acceleration test, CCV8S did beat Zonda, i don't take top gear's results very seriously though. They test the car once, there are enough intangibles that could throw things off that unless both cars are tested repeatedly under similar circumstances, I wouldn't worry about it too much.

A temperature difference of 10F and dewpoint difference of 10F could easily have moved the track time more than .1 secconds, so you have to look at conditions too when you track test.

Considering it was Jeremy Clarkson doing the road test in the Koenigsegg, and he had to get the Lotus chief driver out to show him how to get the Elise back end to step out, I wouldn't take the test times too seriously. True about the temperatures affecting performance, and so can the tyres fitted and the petrol used etc. On the whole, I'd say they were pretty evenly matched.
If the Zonda carried an Italian heart it would be nigh on perfect. As for the Koenigsegg, I've only ever seen one road test, so I'll wait until I hear other people's opinions before making judgement on that one.
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the reason that the Zonda is capable of being such a high performance machine is that incredibly powerful and advanced Mercedes AMG engine under the hood. I think in the end the CCV8S is the performance leader. All numbers point that way.
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Ok, now we need the time from the Nürburgring "green hell" from Zonda and Egg.

A car with a low airresistance factor is not the fastest.
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low air resistance helps, but it isn't any good without a high downforce to match it, and a good driveline to make use of it.

I'd love to see the egg and zonda go round the gring.
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I don't think that I could drive the Koenigsegg. Have you seen pictures from the back, it has ridiculous blind spots. Although the Ford has been around for 100 years, I don't think that they can engineer supercars like the Italian and Germans. I can't say anything about Swedish cars and how they are designed and engineered because there aren't that many.
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