[ROUMOR] Specs of the engines for 2005 C-Class

[LateNightCable]

You finally figured out how to make quotes, congratulations!

Thunf, I really think you are trying to pick an argument by putting words in my mouth. Other manufacturers often handle their weight better, that doesn't mean Mercedes chassis and suspensions are " bad ". They're just fine for MBs' purposes. And when have I ever said Mercedes were " loud " inside? Never.

I gave you a sampling of things I like about MB cars, what do you expect me to do, say they are the best cars in the world and nothing can touch them? Jeez. Say it yourself, but don't drag others through the mud if they don't agree.

Remember, we're here to exchange opinions and stories. We know where you stand, and you should know where I stand. So please drop the argument, it's taking up a lot of space.

[Thunf]

Originally Posted by LateNightCable You finally figured out how to make quotes, congratulations! Thunf, I really think you are trying to pick an argument by putting words in my mouth. Other manufacturers often handle their weight better, that doesn't mean Mercedes chassis and suspensions are " bad ". They're just fine for MBs' purposes. And when have I ever said Mercedes were " loud " inside? Never. I gave you a sampling of things I like about MB cars, what do you expect me to do, say they are the best cars in the world and nothing can touch them? Jeez. Say it yourself, but don't drag others through the mud if they don't agree. Remember, we're here to exchange opinions and stories. We know where you stand, and you should know where I stand. So please drop the argument, it's taking up a lot of space.

Where I stand?!! Is this a joke? Kick me out then if you like. One less talking here. I don't meen you have to say they are the best cars, but I see a pattern where you critizise the cars for what also should be critisised of lots of other brands but you don't. Nah, what does this change. It went too far.

[LateNightCable]

You're not getting kicked out, you're allowed to speak your peace. But I don't see where you get the idea that I hold some particular grudge against MB. How many of my posts have you actually read? If I critisize Mercedes for something and not others, it's probably because Mercedes is the topic being discussed at the moment, like it is now. I don't play favorites, even for BMW. If there is something I don't care for, I'll make it known.

Just don't think I have it out for anything with a three-pointed star on the hood because I don't. In fact I recently looked at a burgundy 380SL with intent to buy ( baby pimp ). It had matching AMG wheels, and was a nice car.

[Thunf]

Originally Posted by LateNightCable You're not getting kicked out, you're allowed to speak your peace. But I don't see where you get the idea that I hold some particular grudge against MB. How many of my posts have you actually read? If I critisize Mercedes for something and not others, it's probably because Mercedes is the topic being discussed at the moment, like it is now. I don't play favorites, even for BMW. If there is something I don't care for, I'll make it known. Just don't think I have it out for anything with a three-pointed star on the hood because I don't. In fact I recently looked at a burgundy 380SL with intent to buy ( baby pimp ). It had matching AMG wheels, and was a nice car.

Nice you took it good! I haven't read all your posts, but some. Have a nice day!

[GIR]

Originally Posted by mv i wonder how it works ... ?

Active Noise Cancelation? Real easy, by counter phasing the sinus

No okay okay. You probably know that sounds are waves that travel through air right? What this does is predict what waves the engine and the road makes and then through the speakers of the car emit a wave that is completely in the opposite direction.

Imagine a sound has the imagenary value of 1. Then the onboard computer picks this up and emits a sound of the imagenary value of -1 through the speakers.

1 + -1 = 0 which means you're left with no noise.

Hope it helps, if it's not clear then i'll try to make it clear through images and stuff.

[LateNightCable]

Originally Posted by GIR Hope it helps, if it's not clear then i'll try to make it clear through images and stuff.

Images and stuff, man thats' technical .
Yeah, I figured myself that noise cancelation worked around that kind of concept. Basically you're indeed listening to a great deal of racket, from the car and the stereo speakers, but it's done in such a way, that it creates the sound of silence.

I think it sounds like a complex solution to a reletively simple issue, like working out your muscles with a machine that gives you small electric shocks.

[thepolarfoxqx]

the sound waves do cancel each other out. The same concept is used in active aviation headsets. I'd never use it on a car personally after using it on a plane. Due to the dynamics of the different sounds, the active cancelation completely elimiates wind noise, exhaust noise, and intake noise, but leaves the mechanical engine sounds pretty well untouched. I'd rather hear intake and exhaust. The S420 i was big pimping in seemed to kill the engine noise with lots of noise padding, why can't they just stick to that?

I got a hell of kick out of holding 6k revs and not hearing a bit of it.