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[aErO_77]

sergioe34, understand what u be sayin, but dun get me started on ferrari...

ferrari aint a supa car maker no more, it a revenue maker, they release ferrari models like bats outta hell.

and if u r a tru lambo luva, aka ME! u will not hav feelings for ferrari becoz u know the story behind the 2 rivals...

btw, saman, where u get then anims? they cool...

[GIR]

Originally Posted by sAmAn just look at these vids,u will understand that zonda is the worst car in the corners,look how it loses control,but see the lambos,they can beat every car in every corner...look how easily they drift :P (Jeremy Clarckson: Still Diablo is the Fastest car in the corners)

Yes if you'd watched the complete video with audio you would have known that the Zonda is slower in the corners because the Zonda is lighter and can't put down too much counterweight for all that power so you have to go slower. The murcie however is AWD, it's not really fair to compare the handeling of a AWD car to a non AWD car as AWD cars are more stable.

[GIR]

Originally Posted by aErO_77 i know wot u r talkin about but the murcie is a top car no matter what u say. did u own one? unless u have u can't say.

Do you? I'd say stop asking people if they own one and get one yourself first.

even though i live by diablo, they are not recognized by their handling ablities so how can u say that its the 'worst lambo up to date@!?!' wtf! seriously u must b joking, oh hang on, ur a merc fan, no wonder. the mercie has improved steering , lower cetre of mass, smarter electronics etc... i duno where u pull ur info from. also, im not sayin its the fastest car on the planet, the diablo still has it covered.

You don't seem to understand what a Lambo is all about. If you want comfort and luxury then you go for Merc yes and that's what I'm looking for in a car, but if you wan't raw power then you go for Lambo. Like I said before Lambo doesn't have a bull in their logo for nothing. The murcie doesn't live upto this reputation.

Title for "Fastest production car with an internal cumbostion engine" is held by McLaren F1.
Title for "Fastest car with an internal cumbostion engine" is held by the Mercedes W125 a record set in 1938.
Title for "Landspeed record in a car" is held by the Trust II.

Lambo still isn't among the fastest cars on the planet but it is among the most powerfull and agressive cars.

also, if u knew, lambo is owned by vw now so of course its gona be influenced with other style and tech! its still a sexy car but not as near as much as the diablo.

Uum no, lambo is owned by Audi, Bugatti is owned by VW. Yes Audi has influenced Lambo too much, that's why the Murcie is such a bad car. Audi should've just stayed out of Lambo's bussiness and let them do their thing.

also, if im talkin lambo, and sayin 1400bhp+, ur gona now that this motor wud was gona own. i can't tell u those figures coz it woz a brief article i read so no luk and no, a lambo motor that was designed like that wud not last a short life time i gareentee u.

Like I said, without knowing the specifics of this engine you can't judge the engine. Funny how you say that you don't know anything about the engine but you can say that it had a long life expectancy.

Like I said before, but you just don't seem to get it, a 1400hp engine wouldn't be that practical. first of all you'd need a hell of alot electronics just to be able to keep the car straight and second the car would need regular service intervals. Maybe the engine it self could take it but the gearbox and the differential can sure as hell not take it. In this particular example the body couldn't take the immence forces.

The reason why other manufacturers are not making engine's this powerfull is because they just have too much common sense. It would take too much time and resources to develope a road car that could take that much power. The end result would be a car that's practicaly undrivable by an avarage man and would cost so much that nobody wold be able to afford one. But I'm sure that they could.

of course i know a car is not only about numbers. although i cant help it, i am in2 figures. and figures tell u alot. but 2 get the full effect obviously u need 2 drive the beast and c how well it performs. although, i hav not myself driven one YET, i have spoken to many UNBIASED (<--key word) opinions and hav been told that both the diablo and mercie are worx of art. if u want sound...dont even talk 2 me about that, the sound a lambo pulls makes any merc sound like a pipecleaner blown its nose.

Why is it that because somebody has a little critisimn it's suddenly biased? How many murcies do you think there are on this planet? On this whole board I just know 1 guy who actually owns a murcie. The chances of you bumping into many people owning a murcie is almost none. And there you go again about a specific thing. The sound of a MB is muffeld because MB wants comfort and luxury, they also want to meet future emmision requirements. Lambo just wants pure power! I've seen Honda Civics sound like a sportscar, just by changing the exhaust. Making a car sound loud isn't a hard thing todo, making a car just right is.

i agree with u that a car is a personal thing, and i , am just expressing MY point of view. u do not have to like it. hell, do u not even hav to read this. but my mind has unvoluntarily made its mind up the first time i saw a pik of a countach about 14 years ago with a naked chik lyin on the hood. and thats wen i gasped, and said i want one of those wen i grown up! (actually both ) from then on, things got beta with the diablo and now i am hooked for life.

If you're soo hooked on Lambo then your not the most objective person. In your POV Lambo is the best, which they are not. I'd say open your eyes and look around.

im very passionate about lambo's, i duno y, its jus this feelin in me that tightens up if sum1 tries 2 diss, so i will fight 2 the death and it is true that u say not 1 car is the best, because there will ALWAYS be another car that does at least sumthing better.

I guess we'll be here for a long time then.

also, im guessing ur an older guy, coz any sane young person, wud buy a lambo if they had enuf $$, not wen they didn't know what to do with it. im not dissin merc here, i know they r gr8 cars, its just that they dun appeal to me, coz lambo has ruiend me! mercs styling aint that flash, its a more conservative "business man" look and feel to it. where as lambo has the more, agressive, sporty, sharp, incredibly fast and sexy sleek look about it words cant describe.

Good going, you just summed the big mayor differences between a Merc and a Lambo.

just put it this way, if there were a group of chix hangin by, and u were in ur merc CL65 or Zonda, and i was in my deep purple or blak Diablo SV, i wud hav them all over me in seconds. no chik wud think twice about the merc. also, coz the lambo (is/was) an italian made car, that just puts the cherry on the cake coz u gota no its well made. same goes for merc , bein a german car and all. im 1/2 italian & german afterall so i am a lil biased... heh

I'm seriously beginning to doubt that you have a drivers licence. Anywayz like I said before it's all about what you are looking for in a car. If you want a car you want to take out once in a while and impress people with then a Lambo it is. But a Ferrari Enzo would have the same effect. Personally I think it would be a shame to buy a car like a Diablo just for the chicks. If you need a car like that to impress women then that sais enough for you social life doesn't it? I would love to take a Diablo around the track but own one? naaah!

[thepolarfoxqx]

ok, lamborghini is owned by volkswagen (who owns Audi), but lamborghini is being "run" and supervised by the Audi division, to ensure that propper prestige is kept in tact. I have to agree with GIR that we need quality posts on this. If you want to voice your opinion, do so as your opinion, say what you think based on what you know, or can intelligently infer based on experiences. don't go on and on about lamborghini being the perfect car in all aspects because you think it looks cool.

There are many admirable qualities in murcielago, overall, it is a very good car. It is very powerful, fast, relatively easily driven, its electronics and all wheel drive make getting into too much troube nearly impossible. Quality control is up on murci, and it is a more palettable car.

I personally don't think that is what lamborghini is about. Lamborghini is about having to press yourself and your driving skills to the absolute edge to drive, it is about unadulterated raw power, noise, the shaking, the sound, the smell of a fast car. In a diablo, you had to drive the car at your absolute limits, you had to be a good driver, else you'd get into real trouble, it wasn't an easy car to drive, and quality control was an issue, but if you can afford one, you can afford repairs, and it is almost a trade off. I don't think a murci really carries on the spirit established in countach and diablo. In my mind, diablo is still the reigning edge of your seat performance car.

My alfa romeo has no electronics, no intervention, and has a very stiff and unforgiving chasis. It is an amazing car for handling, but if you get careless or stupid, it will four wheel drift, slide, spin, or loose tracking. that is why it is so fun to drive. my porsche is obviously a better performing car, built lightyears better, and is infinately more comfortable, but it is forgiving and easily driven, and that takes some of the fun out.

And why ever compared a lambo to a mercedes. That is madness. That is like comparing apples to weed-whackers.

[GIR]

Originally Posted by thepolarfoxqx ok, lamborghini is owned by volkswagen (who owns Audi), but lamborghini is being "run" and supervised by the Audi division, to ensure that propper prestige is kept in tact.

Hmmz I did not know that, tnx for clearing that up.

[aErO_77]

mate, (GIR) where did u get ur info

'Uum no, lambo is owned by Audi, Bugatti is owned by VW. ' lolz

btw, cant b bothered with long replies no more, jus wanted 2 say if u think a honda civic sounds like a sports car jus coz the xhaust has been changed u gotta b kidding me. obviously u dun know the difference between a 'civic' and a sportscar. lolz . a lambo dun just sound loud, it roars. a sports car is what u get if u want all this, not mod the exhaust.

'Lambo just wants pure power! I've seen Honda Civics sound like a sportscar, just by changing the exhaust. Making a car sound loud isn't a hard thing todo, making a car just right is.'

[aErO_77]

Originally Posted by GIR Originally Posted by sAmAn just look at these vids,u will understand that zonda is the worst car in the corners,look how it loses control,but see the lambos,they can beat every car in every corner...look how easily they drift :P (Jeremy Clarckson: Still Diablo is the Fastest car in the corners) Yes if you'd watched the complete video with audio you would have known that the Zonda is slower in the corners because the Zonda is lighter and can't put down too much counterweight for all that power so you have to go slower. The murcie however is AWD, it's not really fair to compare the handeling of a AWD car to a non AWD car as AWD cars are more stable.

what he is tryin 2 put in blak & white is zonda is no good in corners. thank you.

[GIR]

Originally Posted by aErO_77 mate, (GIR) where did u get ur info 'Uum no, lambo is owned by Audi, Bugatti is owned by VW. ' lolz

Yup, I thought Audi had bought Lambo, I was wrong I admit it, whooty rhoo. Have a party.

btw, cant b bothered with long replies no more, jus wanted 2 say if u think a honda civic sounds like a sports car jus coz the xhaust has been changed u gotta b kidding me. obviously u dun know the difference between a 'civic' and a sportscar. lolz . a lambo dun just sound loud, it roars. a sports car is what u get if u want all this, not mod the exhaust. 'Lambo just wants pure power! I've seen Honda Civics sound like a sportscar, just by changing the exhaust. Making a car sound loud isn't a hard thing todo, making a car just right is.'

Nexttime I see that car I'll make a recording of it for you. Anywayz take off the endsilencer of your fathers car and see how loud it suddenly becomes. What I was trying to say, and once again you didn't get, is that making a car have any sound is easy, making a car have just the right sound is a lot more difficult. Just like making any car is easy, just slap on a few parts together and you have a car, but making just the right car is alot more difficult.

[GIR]

Originally Posted by aErO_77 Originally Posted by GIR Originally Posted by sAmAn just look at these vids,u will understand that zonda is the worst car in the corners,look how it loses control,but see the lambos,they can beat every car in every corner...look how easily they drift :P (Jeremy Clarckson: Still Diablo is the Fastest car in the corners) Yes if you'd watched the complete video with audio you would have known that the Zonda is slower in the corners because the Zonda is lighter and can't put down too much counterweight for all that power so you have to go slower. The murcie however is AWD, it's not really fair to compare the handeling of a AWD car to a non AWD car as AWD cars are more stable. what he is tryin 2 put in blak & white is zonda is no good in corners. thank you.

Yes and I was just explaining why this is. Try reading the posts and understanding what it sais.

[thepolarfoxqx]

actually, the massive weight difference between the two works to the advantage of a zonda driver, if driven correctly, you can slip more easily in and out because you have less inirtia to redirect. A murci may have awd, but i think a zonda is capable of being driven just as well.