S2000 Worste car ever!

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Originally Posted by Charlie 350 Z As I said before is about taste

yea i agree with you there.

i would want the hardtop for weight savings on the frame and aerodynamics. so i would want it from the factory.

[wEstSide]

I thought newer S2000s were 2.2L.

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they are in the u.s.

but i think 02 was 2.0

[iroc-z89]

Originally Posted by icemans2k i like Japanese muscle cars like the Z,

cough

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Originally Posted by iroc-z89 Originally Posted by icemans2k i like Japanese muscle cars like the Z, cough

wait how much more whp does the z have than the iroc?

in a sense it is a muscle car, fairly low revving with torque haha

[iroc-z89]

man the iroc isn't a muscle car, it was a shot at bringing them back. if you look up the stats, old muscle big block cars had from 375-475 hp and torque that in stock form would throw four thousand pound car off the ground and twist the frame on the drag strip. There is one particular car that comes to mind with that. But I can't remeber whether it was a chevy or a mopar.

This is a muscle car:





The Z and the S sports cars. My Iroc is a 2 door sedan with the capabilty to lay a 200ft burnout without the drop of the clutch. The only thing that can still be called a muscle car is the vette. 550hp, 475tq. all from a 427cid smallblock. And the reason why it can even be considered to be a muscle car is that it was around during that time and it was a muscle/pony car.

As far as fairly low revving i have taken mine up to 7K in a race, idoitic but it has been done. Oh and as far as real muscle cars, they would generally redline around 6-6500rpm. Before the days of emissions and smogger motors. Cause you see if i remove and my emissions equipment or even replace them with new stuff(and fuel injectors) i would be sitting around 300hp. Just its still a smogger motor.

[wEstSide]

Camaros are pony cars. I'd say the Japanese version of the muscle car would be the homologation special type cars they built such as the Pulsar GTi-R, Evo, and STi.

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good point on the true definitition of a muscle car.

6k - 7k is low revving

[LateNightCable]

Just to make a correction, the next ZO6 is listed at 505hp. and 470lbft/tq. but yeah, it's the deffinition of a modern American muscle car for sure. 6-7,000 may be low revving by Euro/Asian standards, but then American mills make their power in a totally different way.

The Z-car is no friggin' muscle car compared to a stump pulling Mopar or something, but I think cars like Westside mentioned are really what an Asian "muscle car" is - which is understandably completely different from what an American muscle car is.

They are both shining representations of the style of engineering their countries of origin do best.

[iroc-z89]

yeah thanks for the correction, they changed the motor, six months ago it was 550/475.