Mitsubishi Eclipse Concept-E - Page 2

skyline_r34v · 01-12-04, 10:10 PM

You know i totally agree with u LNC, i believe they should leave the hybrid 150KW electric motor in there along with the 3.8L V6 becuz that would be an unrivaled sports compact coupe.

I mean i don't really care bout the 20-in wheels not making it to production,
most likely they would do more bad than good.
But the hybrid 3.8L V6 hittin at 270fwhp and the 150KW e-motor bringing 200rwhp along with of course AWD, so it could obviously have all the power of both motors going to the ground, and a LSD would be 470whp.

You could be talkin about a, 11-12 second 1/4 mile, 3.5-4sec 0-60mph, sport compact car threatenin porsche's, ferrari's, lambo's....etc u name it.
There wouldn't be any need to upgrade the power cuz thats enuff, unless u want to upgrade the suspension and gear the transmission perfectly.

I read that the reason they might dump the e-motor is becuz they haven't absolutely perfected it yet.
But hell thats wat its a damn concept car for the *****s, it's not gonna be perfect when u 1st create it. I mean its not like its gone be out in the next 2-3 years, so hell take the time the next few years to work on it and make it sync perfectly.

If they do perfect it, it'll be the very 1st, that i know of, e-motor performance car ever.
I know if they did make this out to the production along with everything they said, then its not going to be newhere near as cheap the regular eclipses r goin 2 be. But who really cares?

I would think the price would be sumwhere a lil over the price of a totally deluxed '04 GTS spyder.
I definitely would think it'd be well worth the money.
I'm goin 2 email Mitsubishi or try 2 call them jus 2 let them know my opinion bout the concept car and see if they'll put a chance in hell in listenin 2 me.
I highly doubt they will since their customer service sucks dick but who knows they might surprise me.

thepolarfoxqx · 01-12-04, 10:27 PM

i think if that made production it would be so expensive it would be a sport compact in the same sense a 911 turbo is.

LateNightCable · 01-12-04, 10:54 PM

With that kind of power it could defintely run with a 911 Turbo, and then some. Building the first hybrid performance car, able to compete with cars such as the 911 Turbo would be such a status symbol, it's amazing no manufacturer is doing anything with it. They should jump at it, that would increase public support for hybrids immeasurably, which would translate into demand. And you know when the demand is there, they will find a way to make it affordable. Skyline is right, saying that the electric motor won't make production in two or three years is just them stalling. Work on it people, nose to the grind stone.

People would say " I never thought about having a car like a Prius, but I want a car like that hot ass half electric Mitso! " :P

skyline_r34v · 01-13-04, 12:18 AM

I jus read on a site that the e-boost motor acts exactly like a supercharger.
The eclipse will mainly rely on the 3.8L V6 for when ur daily commuting, when the time cums for racing the e-motor kicks in the extra 200 horses.
Sorta like a constant 200hp shot of nitrous but hella safer and no lag time associated with a supercharger.
Thats awesome.

thepolarfoxqx · 01-13-04, 04:33 AM

what i meant is that price-wise it will compete with a 911 tt.

skyline_r34v · 01-13-04, 07:23 AM

You know i wouldn't jump to conclusions fox and say this Eclipse is going to be near a $120k Mitsu.
Hell Mitsu has never had a nething stock above $70k much less $120k's.
Most expensive car Mitsu ever dealt with is the 1996 GTO VR-4 Spyder and it's at $65k.
Plus this is still going to be an economy/sports coupe.
I doubt they're going to take away the image/namesake of Eclipse being an performanced economy car and turn it into a high-performance machine like the 911TT.

They will most likely still try to make this available to
younger gen's and older gen's while still tryin 2 keep the costs down.
They won't make a $120k Eclipse EVER, that's not their style and not the way they work.
That would basically ruin their image of having cheap yet fairly great performance cars.
I know this will be nowhere near as cost effective as the Eclipse's out 2day, but i'm sure that it'll be around the area of $30k-$40k.

LateNightCable · 01-14-04, 01:21 AM

I know what you meant. If it were as expensive as a 911 Turbo, it would be no big deal because it would be able to compete performance wise. Thats' what the cause for environmentally sound vehicles needs to give it an extra push. A flagship hybrid supercar with super economy and super performance.

I love the old gas powered concept, it has a lot of soul, but at the same time, keeping the air clean is no joke. We don't need development dollars being spent on twin-turbo V-12s' or 1,000 hp. V-16s', in the times we're living in that's really apalling. Not to sound like a pessimist, but I believe we're approaching a time where it's " do or die ". Get serious about alternative methods of power, or choke on the fumes that doing nothing will bring.

Hybrid power is a start, and I'm sure it can be made into something fun to drive. The industry just needs to stop using it as a novelty, a public relations tool to make it seem as though they're doing their part to keep the environment healthy. And then turn around and build a huge ass SUV. Fortunately, vehicles like the H2 and Ford Excavation, or whatever that stupid thing is called are beginning to be held to the same standard as cars.

What is everyone's take on this?

thepolarfoxqx · 01-14-04, 06:10 AM

electric cars are without souls, they don't have feelings like gas cars do, there is no passion in it.

I am a hug proponent of ethanol though.

skyline_r34v · 01-14-04, 06:17 AM

I think its a gr8 idea to start makin hybrid's or jus plain out performance e-motor's.
E-motor's r without souls cuz they r still brand new to the car world.
Once they start appearin more and more with each/every new car they'll began 2 grow on u.

Jus like when the 1st car came out, ppl were like wats this thing.
And now we're extremely fascinated bout them but now its the electric motors turn 2 be like, wtf's this? and have it proven to make us fascinated with it, also.

They need time to grow on u, when they do then u'll start 2 see and
feel the soul in them like internal combustion engines do now.

djfux69 · 01-14-04, 01:26 PM

well fox is right. they dont have the same feel, or "soul" ( i like that usage of the word fox) as gas engines. electric engines deliver all of their torque nearly instantly and have great low end response. but its the sound, the growl that it lacks. electic engines seem docile, dormant. they are almost silent. but ethanol would be fun, i think methanol is legal in italy. i have seen gas stations for it. nothing like shooting blue flames out the exhaust!