The Ferrari F355 sounds like a Honda Civic!!

[thepolarfoxqx]

i don't even see how there is a debate, an F355 is a 5V Dohc V8 with a very unique exhaust system (central engine dictated), the civic is a 4v Sohc I4 with a very restrictive exhaust, an S2000 may make the same shrill F1esque sound, but not a civic.

[T88TurboStang]

:roll: how could you even relate a ferrari to a civic in any way....that is like caling astong martin a jaguar.....or abentyly a ford taurus....

[thepolarfoxqx]

hey, jaguar is every bit the car an aston martin is, simply on a less grand scale.

The comparison here is like comparing a corvette to a hotwheels.

[T88TurboStang]

still you get my point........

[thepolarfoxqx]

I know, I know, I am just very protective of Jaguar (i guess I was brought up to revere them).

In response to the question about the Chevy Small Block 5.7L

The old 5.7L (LT1 - 350c.i.) was a beast down low, and had its own beautiful low end burble, but high end it sounded more like a choking vacuum cleaner than tuned technology.

The new 5.7L (LS1/LS6 346c.i.) is a much more well rounded engine, while not as beafy down low, it more than makes up for it in middle end power. In terms of exhaust, I would say it was pretty good until you really pushed it. I have a relative with a corvette - and his sounds pretty pushed and wheezy up around 6,000.

If you keep the revs below 4,500, it is a beautful sounding machine, but the kind of higher pitch - almost whiney sound it tends to make towards the very ends of the tach just don't keep up with the nice low end burble.

Anyhow, that is only natural for a 2V engine. GM easily has the best pushrod motors around (in terms of being well balanced and powerfully usable). I just wish they would use something more along the lines of the 5.7L DOHC LT5 motor from ZR-1

I think we need to settle this argument.

Anyone know someone with a Ferrari we can borrow? Lets get it side by side with a civic, video tape it, and put it in the carpassion gallery?

Sound good enough?

[T88TurboStang]

i dont konw about you bro......but ifi had a ferrari...i would never want a civic near mine....lol

[thepolarfoxqx]

Naw, a ferrari is too pure, no civicness could ever penetrate.

And If i had a ferrari, no one of thing would get within 5 feet of it (except me).

I pitty da fool who think a ricer and a racer are the same thing.

[tbalfe]

The reason the Ferrari V8s have that unique sound is because they are one of the few companies to use a flat-crank V8. If you take a Ferrari V8 crank out of it's block it appears much the same way a four cylinder crank does, except there is room enough for two rods per crank throw instead of one.

If you look at the Ferrari firing order it's the same as the Cosworth DFV, which both use the standard 1-3-4-2 on each bank, except interlaced. One bank takes it's turn, then the other bank takes it's turn except from the opposite end. They do this until it's time to repeat the firing order.

There are a few other cars that use a flat-crank with their 8 cylinder engines; there is the Lotus Esprit V8, the VW Passat W8, and the Cerbera AJP V8 (which we can't buy in the United States).

I know that one of the positive aspects of a flat-crank V8 is that they rev easily because they require less of a counterweight on the crankshaft throws (less rotational inertia). Another positive aspect of flat-crank vs dual-plane crank is that less counterweight means less weight of the crankcase, more counterweight in the crank requires a stronger crankcase. Additionally it sounds like a sports car ought to!

A negative aspect is that they vibrate at idle a little more than a dual-plane crank (pretty much all V8s we're used to: Mercedes, BMW, Chevy, Ford, Holden, etc). That's the reason VW uses balance shafts with their W8 - to quell the 2nd order vibrations inherent to flat-crank V8s. (I know VW uses a W design, but it's very similar to a V).

Anyway, it might be something to hear a Passat W8 with sports exhaust, as well as some videos of Lotus V8s and TVR Cerbera V8s!

PS - any similarities between a 4 cylinder Civic (or any other for that matter) and a Ferrari V8 is because the firing order is very similar.

PPS - firing orders:

CYL NUM Ferrari V8

1 2 3 4
8 7 6 5

FIRING ORDER Ferrari V8
1 - 5 - 3 - 7 - 4 - 8 - 2 - 6

CYL NUM Typical 4-cyl

1 2 3 4

FIRING ORDER Typical 4-cyl
1 3 4 2

(source: Ferrari Dino 308GT4 Workshop Manual, pps L13, L14)
(you can find the firing order for your 4 cylinder in your owners manual)

Ciao,

Tom

[riconijhof]

Ok, have you seen the F355 vs. Civic video? LISTEN! The Civic has a low sound, like a bear. The F355 screams. So its sounds are just totally different from eachother.

[royperlot]

A couple of days ago I heard the f355 in real life. So i heard again that a f355 not sounds like a civic. A civic makes a deep noise (bad sound), but the F355 a high noise (cool sound).

Grtz Roy

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