Lambo Gallardo or Ferrari 360 CS?

[allanlambo]

One day when you guys have a clue, then maybe youll be able to chime in. Exactly how many Ferraris do you own? How many Lamborghinis? None, thats what i thought. Ive owned atleast 10 different Ferraris. Ive driven almost all of them. I didnt come here saying that Lamborghini is the Best, ill take a Pagani over a Lambo all day long. What i am saying is that over any comparable Ferrari, Lambo kills it. Yes the Enzo is is faster, but it also costs 4x the price. One days you guys will realize how difficult it is to afford a 100,000 car, vs a 300,000 car. Try figuring out that if you put 100,000 cash down on a Murcielago, your payments would still be 4,000 a month. Then try an Enzo, with 20,000 dollar a month payments. Then realize when you buy cars like these, you pay cash, not finance. As for Lamborghini losing its passion with Audi owning, get off the crack. Drive a Murcielago, and then try telling me that. Also, Lamborghini owns Ferrari in one particular catagory that is most important, LOOKS. The Enzo is UGLY.

In the end, i have the Ferrari and the Lambo in the garage, i am qualified to have an opinion. When you have the same in your garage, you can have one too.

[Speedster25]

It depends, me personally I like the way the Ferrari looks, not as much the front. But I love the rear, its sharp. I would like the front to be more curvy, and not as linear. You might disagree, but Ferrari make the best engines in the world. The enzo costs a lot because, they have bery new technologies that most cars if any have. Their brakes are one of the best if not the best in the world. It has a feature that allows the car to raise an extra 3 inches of the ground. I never dissed Lambo, I like Lambo, all I said was that Lamborghini isn't as racing oriented as they would before. Make an argument for it, and I'll see what you make of it. I like the Murcielago, in fact I might be wrong because there is a Murcielago R-GT that might go into production, with 600+bhp, and only weighs 2,420 lbs.
That might blow away many of my expectations.

[BIGpassion]

im 100% with you allanlambo with the fact that if you were to take a murcielago or a gallardo for that matter out on the road or track, i would find it virtually impossible to say that Lamborghini has been muted since audi took over, but i would say that it has been tamed in some aspects, like its not only you driving the car, its the electronics aswell....but of course you can get rid of those. overall the performance and styling etc. is virtually faultless in my eyes,
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[allanlambo]

Originally Posted by Speedster25 It depends, me personally I like the way the Ferrari looks, not as much the front. But I love the rear, its sharp. I would like the front to be more curvy, and not as linear. You might disagree, but Ferrari make the best engines in the world. The enzo costs a lot because, they have bery new technologies that most cars if any have. Their brakes are one of the best if not the best in the world. It has a feature that allows the car to raise an extra 3 inches of the ground. I never dissed Lambo, I like Lambo, all I said was that Lamborghini isn't as racing oriented as they would before. Make an argument for it, and I'll see what you make of it. I like the Murcielago, in fact I might be wrong because there is a Murcielago R-GT that might go into production, with 600+bhp, and only weighs 2,420 lbs. That might blow away many of my expectations.

See you are wrong. And btw, Lambo has had inplace the ability to raise the front of the car up and down since 1998. Ferraris are fragile pieces of crap. My 355 for example. 9,000 mile car. Interior is falling appart. There are shakes and rattles everywhere. They use timing belts, which must be replaced, and the engine must comeout. Driving the car around, once you get into traffic, you watch the temp quickly climb. My friend, had a 360, just traded for a 360CS (also has a Diablo 6.0) . He is already ready to get rid of the 360CS, has had it for 1 month. The guy who owns the Gallardo in the Gallardo vs 550 race, also has a 360. His 360 is in the shop every other week. My uncle, first had a 360, the tranny blew up, then the electronics would keep him from starting the car. He traded it in, got a 360 Spider. So far, the top has failed 4 times, speedo stopped working, and he had a problem with the catalytic converters overheating. Ferraris f1 tech does not translate into its roadcars, in the ways you think it does. They are weak, and fragile roadcars. Ive had enough of them to know. I have no reason to come here and bash them. I own them, and wish they were good cars. Now since Lambos begginning, Ferrucio insisted on not racing the cars. This continues to this day. Ferrari spent over 300 Million dollars on racing last year to win. They only build road cars in order to be able to race. Lambo builds road cars to drive. An Enzo is no doubt a fantastic car, but it is not worth a Murcielago, Gallardo, Diablo, F40, Porsche TT, and a Saleen S7 combined. Inmo, the only Ferrari worth owning is an F40.

[skyline_r34v]

Originally Posted by allanlambo One days you guys will realize how difficult it is to afford a 100,000 car, vs a 300,000 car. Try figuring out that if you put 100,000 cash down on a Murcielago, your payments would still be 4,000 a month. Then try an Enzo, with 20,000 dollar a month payments. Then realize when you buy cars like these, you pay cash, not finance. As for Lamborghini losing its passion with Audi owning, get off the crack. Drive a Murcielago, and then try telling me that. Also, Lamborghini owns Ferrari in one particular catagory that is most important, LOOKS. The Enzo is UGLY.

Dude I can careless how you make payments on any of your cars. I don't care if you're like my friend and fork out $170k's straight up for a new Porsche GT2 or you go through monthly payments, none of that concerns me.

Personally, I've stated a time or so that I do NOT like the Enzo, sure it's amazingly fast, an awesome handler but it is DOG ASS ugly. So lay off the Enzo shit, I didn't even say anything about the Enzo. Frankly I didn't say anything about Ferrari Enzo or Ferrari anything stomping any type of Lamborghini, so I have no idea where you're coming up with that.
All I said was that I know plenty of cars that are better than Lamborghini.

Originally Posted by allanlambo In the end, i have the Ferrari and the Lambo in the garage, i am qualified to have an opinion. When you have the same in your garage, you can have one too.

That's funny, I thought the Ferrari was suppose to be gone by yesterday ;), so that means you only have the Lambo in your Garage and your Hummer H2 so...........

[skyline_r34v]

Originally Posted by allanlambo An Enzo is no doubt a fantastic car, but it is not worth a Murcielago, Gallardo, Diablo, F40, Porsche TT, and a Saleen S7 combined. Inmo, the only Ferrari worth owning is an F40.

That's one of the smartest things I've seen you type, I wouldn't mind having an F50 If it was at all possible and there's nothing wrong with it. The F40 is considered BY ME one of the best Ferrari's ever made but the F50 is the absolute best and it's not even the fastest.

[allanlambo]

The F50 is trash. Even considered so by die hard ferrari fans. My 355 is gone, but so i my Diablo. Its on its way to CA to get Twin turboed.

[skyline_r34v]

@ trash, riiiight buddy anyways. GL with your TT Lambo, like you're going to need it to race against some people :roll:

[bleh]

Originally Posted by allanlambo but so i my Diablo. Its on its way to CA to get Twin turboed.

:thumbs up:

but seriously guys the pissing match shouldve been over a while ago. allan had a very good point that nobody could respond to in that a large portion of us dont own either of the cars and in some cases(namely my own) have never driven either.

skyline, you should know that no matter how much you have done to your ride, you are never done modifying it. and going from being bottle fed to blown for the extra horsepower is definitely worth it. i wouldnt want to fill the bottle up after every time i spray.

[skyline_r34v]

I just don't like the fact that spray is used on an exotic, it just doesn't seem right like it's not suppose to be there it kind of degrades the car a little.

I know how it is when you need more power, I mean hell I had a 147hp 2.4L I-4 eclipse and couldn't stand it for more than a couple of months until it went supered. Even stage 1 with 240fwhp wasn't enough so now I finally have stage 3 at ??? probably over 400+fwhp?? I haven't dyno'd recently and don't have the money to dyno it.

I've thought about spray for my car but I just don't know. I want to see how much raw USEABLE hp I can get out of this supercharger before having to "cheat" with spray, you know what I mean??
I just don't feel like messing around with getting a bottle, bottle warmer, direct port injection system and all that other shit. It all adds weight and i'm looking to lose as much weight as possible plus you have to keep refilling the bottle after you use 3/4's of it because they say you don't let it get fully empty for some reason???

I'm definitely not done, I wished I had alot of "excess money" then i'd buy magnesium wheels, make the frame out of aluminum, replace the entire body casing with carbon fiber, just like I did with my 3000GT VR-4, take out my back seats, hollow but strong roll cage, front bucket racing seats and etc etc etc.

I probably won't get rid of the eclipse because it was my 1st 4-cylinder project car and I haven't lost or got beaten at the track yet.

Man that was a long ass post, sorry about that guys.