Jaguar XJ 2004 - Page 2

izzyloveslizzy · 04-25-03, 06:56 AM

Agh damn it! There's that word again ("limiter"). Basically the car's are having 50KPH shaved off their speed capability. Eww.

thepolarfoxqx · 04-25-03, 07:29 PM

well, you know some fool would go out an kill himself trying to go 190 in his M5 or XJR, i just wish there were some sort of built in get around for it.

izzyloveslizzy · 05-17-03, 06:19 AM

Yes but it annoys me (and many others) when humanity in it's entirety is considered to be stupid and irresponsible. Let's face it, what percent of people who can afford cars with capabilities of over 250KPH even live in areas where the traffic and road conditions and lengths even permit 200KPH? Why not save us and themselves the trouble?

thepolarfoxqx · 05-17-03, 07:00 PM

you can find a road to go that fast on nearly anywhere.

some ***** will do it you know! I think it should get raised to 170, and have a warning chime go off at 140 and again at 160.

izzyloveslizzy · 09-12-03, 01:28 AM

Well, I don't think everyone should be punished because a few people out there are *****s. I think the warning chime is a good idea (I came up with it too), but the limiter is pointless and ridiculous. If yuo're planning on doing something stupid, you're going to do it anyway, and a limiter isn't going to stop stupid people. Besides, if you're planning on speeding in the city, for example, there's no point in limitnig speeds of over 250KPH, because 250KPH itself is insanely fast, and if you go 250 anywhere, you're likely to get killed before you're 40. So what's the bloody point with the limiter then? If they really wanted to make a point, they'd limit your car to 160KPH, not 250!

:roll: :P

LateNightCable · 09-12-03, 02:33 AM

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Originally Posted by vanquish007

The Jaguar XJ is a far more sporting car than a 7-series BMW. Always has been.

I don't agree with that at all, certainly not " always has been ". If you mean " sporting " as in sporting like a British aristocrat puffing his pipe while on a fox hunt, than sure. But the 7-Series BMW has always been tuned for a firmer ride, and sporty handling. It's one of the only cars in it's class to have a serious sport package, like mine. The history of XJ has been that of a cream puff with a sporty feel. The XJR is a newer development.

About the limiters. They are in place to protect those around you as well, not just yourself. An accident at 100 miles per hour could cause hell, but speed sells, so I suppose they figure that not 150, but 155 is enough to satisfy the speed freaks, and keep the safety people happy too.

thepolarfoxqx · 09-12-03, 03:04 AM

i found out why. a number of nations require the 155mph speed limiter for a vehicle to be sold.

the XJR is every bit as sporting as anything out there. Jaguar has always been about sport, for a while they got numbed, but it's the heritage.

plus they have a chrome cat leaping off the hood!

LateNightCable · 09-12-03, 03:44 PM

Manditory 155 huh? I know that it was sort of a voluntary thing, something that was just agreed upon among the European manufacturers for the sake of " safety ", at least in the beginning.

What I think is really quite dumb, is the Japanese law requiring cars to have no more than 276 hp. Even though everyone knows that many of those cars make a whole lot more than that. Where did they come up with 276 from anyway??

izzyloveslizzy · 09-14-03, 04:43 AM

Once again, that's just ridiculous. I don't see why 155.376 was such as magical number. OK, so it translates to 250KPH. But what makes THAT such a magical number? Why not limit at 260, or 240? How the hell could you possibly compromise by finding the average in this case? The speed freaks won't be happy with 250, and the safety of the people around them will certainly not be in any way assured when they're doing even 180. So who was the brainiac that came up with that? I can understand that some countries have a 155MPH speed limit, but why? What made THEM go with 155MPH? This is all too stupid.

kleinefisch · 09-15-03, 01:22 AM

I don't get what the talk about nations regulating speed is all about. Merc, BMW, and Audi all limit their speed, but Porsche doesn't. Jag may limit their speeds too, but TVR doesn't. I think that limiters are pointless as well, because how can some crazy going 190 mph into a tree reflect the company at all? Why can Ferrari and Lambo live with top speeds of 200+ mph? And on one of the Top Gear episodes (the 400 hp club), Jeremy said the RS6 was limited to 155 but that on the test track, he saw 170 or something and "reckoned" that with a long enough road, you could get it up to 200.