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Old 08-25-05, 07:38 AM   #11
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Do you think the new M5 will out perform and be quicker than the E55 AMG? Sorry if this is a dumb question. That E55 is just so quick! It would be so great if the M5 came out and showed that E55 who his daddy was I do like the 6 speed manual option though. You know us American's...we want options
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Old 08-26-05, 12:54 AM   #12
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Objectively speaking, M5 is by far the natural athlete of the two. E55 AMG is a strong car, but handling wise it can't match the M5.

As far as straight line performance, they both take off like a runaway train. Although the Benz encounters traction problems early on due to it's massive low end torque and front weight bias.
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Old 08-26-05, 04:18 AM   #13
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Objectively speaking, M5 is by far the natural athlete of the two. E55 AMG is a strong car, but handling wise it can't match the M5.

As far as straight line performance, they both take off like a runaway train. Although the Benz encounters traction problems early on due to it's massive low end torque and front weight bias.

That makes sense. It doesn't appear AMG has anything that compares to BMW's (DSC). I wonder why
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Old 08-26-05, 10:53 PM   #14
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Stability control is one thing, but also the M5 has better chassis balance and the suspension is simply a finer honed intrument for performance driving. They are nearly the same weight, the BMW being a little lighter, but the M5 carries it better.

The AMG is like a 4-door muscle car, and the M5 a bit like a 4-door Formula 1 racer. That would be a good way to describe the feel of them.
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Old 08-27-05, 04:05 PM   #15
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Objectively speaking, M5 is by far the natural athlete of the two. E55 AMG is a strong car, but handling wise it can't match the M5.

As far as straight line performance, they both take off like a runaway train. Although the Benz encounters traction problems early on due to it's massive low end torque and front weight bias.

Sorry, on the contrary! Almost all mags I've read they said that the E55 has an advantage from start to about 70 km/h. And that was the Wagon model, not the sedan!
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Sorry, on the contrary! Almost all mags I've read they said that the E55 has an advantage from start to about 70 km/h. And that was the Wagon model, not the sedan!
I'm primarely speaking of the sedan, which could very well have different dynamics than the wagon - the wagon could have more weight in the rear. But if the E55 does have an advantage to 70 km/h. it still has traction issues.
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Old 08-27-05, 10:18 PM   #17
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I agree that M5 is lighter, it's also faster. But 700 Nm is not disappearing, it isn't much slower. The E-class is slightly heavier because it's safer than the 5 series.


EuroNCAP (crashtest):

Mercedes-Benz E-Class
Adult occupant rating 5 Stars
Test Scores: Front 13 (81%) Side 18 (100%) Belt Reminder 2 Overall 33 Pedestrian 4 (11%)

BMW 5-Series
Adult occupant rating 4 stars
Test Scores: Front 11 (69%) Side 16 (89%) Belt Reminder 2 Overall 29 Pedestrian 2 (6%)

The new M5 is a true sportcar with it's advantage and disadvantages. E55 is safer and fast and M5 is faster.
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I agree that M5 is lighter, it's also faster. But 700 Nm is not disappearing, it isn't much slower. The E-class is slightly heavier because it's safer than the 5 series.


EuroNCAP (crashtest):

Mercedes-Benz E-Class
Adult occupant rating 5 Stars
Test Scores: Front 13 (81%) Side 18 (100%) Belt Reminder 2 Overall 33 Pedestrian 4 (11%)

BMW 5-Series
Adult occupant rating 4 stars
Test Scores: Front 11 (69%) Side 16 (89%) Belt Reminder 2 Overall 29 Pedestrian 2 (6%)

The new M5 is a true sportcar with it's advantage and disadvantages. E55 is safer and fast and M5 is faster.
So...are you saying the new M5 out performs the E55 simply because of the E55's saftey features?
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So...are you saying the new M5 out performs the E55 simply because of the E55's saftey features?

No. Where? I said that the E55 is heavier because of one thing. I said also that M5 is faster. Also the 5 has a stronger engine and certainly faster at higher speed due to highrevving and close gearing. I have never said anything about M5 outperforms E55 only because E-class is contructed to withstand a crash better. I have no doubts the M5 is great! But I'm glad there will be choices! There would be no 500+ hp M5 V10 without the existance of E55 (and no E55 without the E39 M5)!

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Truth be told, in regards to safety, both the E-Class and 5 Series are no doubt two of the safest cars on the road. BMW and Mercedes are renowned for their safety engineering.

Sports car-like handling, buttoned down body control and strong breaks could all be considered passive safety features.
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