1033 hp M5, quarter mile in 9.41

Thunf · 09-29-04, 02:17 PM

http://www.quicksilver-supra.com/VS_vs_Vaa_avi.avi

Where is the limit!?

Thunf · 10-03-04, 10:58 PM

Hundreds of views but no comments!
Persian, what is your comment? I'd like to see modified MB doing these times on the quarter mile. Now I've seen a BMW M3 with turbo doing 242 end speed and an M5 doing 9.42 quarter mile. So, it's no use to come up with Brabus, Kleemann or Renntech because the only thing they do is making the already expencive cars more expensive...
Want the extra acceleration and cornering capabilities? choose a Porche.
However, what's the difference? If BMW's or someone else would be doing 4.41 a quarter mile i'd still take a MB!

Morten · 10-27-04, 11:40 PM

Maybe this will generate some comments

Check V.S Motors new website :

http://www.vsmotor.no/en_index.html

You'll find some nice videos there...

TIP! Download the one from Gatebil September 2004

All Wheel Drive · 11-15-04, 06:33 PM

This doesn't prove anything on BMW... The monster these people created is not realy a streetcar. Anything with a solid engine block can be turned into a monster like this.

LateNightCable · 11-15-04, 06:42 PM

That's what this thread is about though, monsters.

All Wheel Drive · 11-15-04, 09:11 PM

Well then, if the initial question is "Where is the limit?" I'd say that there is no limit as long there is desire and ressources... cause that baby needs some maintenance after some runs. There is no way someting could keep up with this stress.

Thunf · 11-15-04, 10:53 PM

I agree.

The M5s engine internals is lightweight, a highreving engine, it is designed to be NA.
For example MB is designed with intentionally higher mass to handle FI, and being strong in lov revs.

Both have a different understandably filosofy.

MB went for energy saving in intentionally reducing the revs, the slightly higher mass don't need to accelerate and slow down as frequent, where you find power, in the low revs.

BMW went for energy saving in lighter engine internals, gives the power on high revs. And stressing with FI reduces the liftime of the engine.

The engine in a Topfuel dragster last one race and revs to 8000 rpm max, and weights 975.2 kg (2150 lbs).
An engine designed for high revs in a heavy car with forced injection certainly stresses it allot. It's like putting a FI motorcycle engine in a heavy car, even if power is similar to the original engine of the car it wount last long.

Seeing the videos gave me a big smile, going sideways with endless of power! But the lighter cars behind kept well up.

LateNightCable · 11-15-04, 11:38 PM

Power is virtually limitless with enough resources, but there are limits to durability. Building a machine that lasts for one run down the track, such as a top fuel dragster is not hard, pure speed is cheap. Building something that is flexible, cost effective, and that will last is the challenge.

BMW's were meant to be handling machines, not drag racers.

helden2000 · 11-28-04, 07:14 PM

I`ve seen the video and this leads to another great BMW demo.Anyway the engineers from BMW are the greatest on earth.They do not put turbines and compressors in order to gain power like MB,AUDI,PORSCHE and many others do.They THINK!!Think what happens if the BMW M3 not CSL meets with Carrera.The Porsche has 3,6 displacement and the M3 has 3,2.But the M3 will crash the Carrera.But with the Turbo there is another story.I hope you all understood what i said.

Regards

LateNightCable · 11-28-04, 07:43 PM

Other makers think too, Porsche for example would not be who they are today if they didn't use their heads. With the exclusion of wierd stuff like the Cayenne which really is not a Porsche anyway. Porsche knows the 911, and they know turbos.

BMW on the other hand knows engines like no other, and are the veritable masters of deriving the most power from natural asperation, and balancing a car's dynamics so that they work as a cohesive unit. They have made it their specialty. And it has served them very well.