Ford Mustang Cobra - Page 3

thepolarfoxqx · 03-29-03, 08:11 AM

well, as much as I love overclocking, I work strictly with aircooling, which doesn't work with cars. The compressor supercools the freon which is pumped through the intercool to supercool the air. This makes the air very dense, and incrases the effect of the supercharger. Liquid nirtogen would work much like NOS. NOS when injected causes air to be supercooled, and huge boosts. Liquid nitrogen although requires a cryogenic refrigeration system, which isn't so small. It is not practical, but it could be done. It has no real advantage over NOS though, but I would stick to normal, or maybe freon charged intercooolers.

izzyloveslizzy · 03-30-03, 06:39 AM

well, I can't say I even slightly agree that it (Liq. Nitr.) has no real advantages over NOS. Correct me IIW, but doesn't Liquid Nitrogen kick serious ass (I can say ass, right?) on Nitrous Oxide?

As for the Cryogenic chamber, that would not pose a huge problem, especially with crazy people like me who (with a bit of extra cash) would become hell-bent on tweaking edge to the edge of oblivion. Of course I know the containment of Liquid Nitrogen is hard, then again this same issue is posing a problem for the advocates of Hydrogen engines (of course probably not as much, but still...).

Oh and one more thing: You're into just everything aren't you? You sound just like me. How do you overclock CPUs? HAVE you ever overclocked any CPUs? My dream is to show everyone just how much a Pentium 4 sucks, by making a combo of Liquid Nitrogen and a 550MHz AMD K6-III+. It can be overclocked to 2.5GHz or more with double Liquid Nitro, though it creates other problems (but I Love a good challenge). Oh and believe me, a K6-III+ at 2.5GHz+ would kill a 3.07GHz Pentium 4 HT.

thepolarfoxqx · 03-30-03, 07:03 PM

Well, liquid nitrogen has a severe disadvantage (well, actually quite a few). Firstly, it is not flamable at any temperature. After you use NOS to freeze the air being pulled into the engine, the NOS will burn with the gas in the combustion chamber. Liquid nitrogen will not burn. Also, liquid nitrogen is, i believe -223 degrees centrigrade below zero. I do not know of any material you could build an intake manifold out of that would take a temperature differential of better than 300 degrees centigrade over 4 inches. It would shatter. A cryo system is very very very heavy, i promise you, it would be a pain just to get you car to take that part, even if you did have some magic material, and didn't care that you were pumping non-flamable material into the engine - which would erase a lot of the gain would have gotten from it.

With freon, you don't release anything into the intake, so it stays just air and gas going into the engine. The freon is pumped through a radiator coil in the intercooler, and contact cools the air. You can't do this with liquid nitrogen, because again, there is no material to make thin, condutctive coils from that you could deep freeze like that, and expect not to instantly shatter. Therefor, you would have to pump liquid nitrogen vapor into the intake (like what people do with NOS). I already explained why that wouldn't do much for ya. It is a cool idea, but I am afraid it just doesn't work. There are insane people everywhere who would have done it already if they could have.

izzyloveslizzy · 04-03-03, 12:09 AM

That's true you're right it ain't flammable. That's one thing it's not!

That's true. I agree. I already know the problems (and dangers) Liquid Nitrogen can create. The containment of Liquid Nitrogen is probably the hardest thing.

It would be good if you could create a Freon/Nitrous-Oxide/Liquid-Nitrogen mixture (impossible, I know) that would have the best features of each. Then your engine would do some crazy wacky stuff!

T88TurboStang · 04-03-03, 12:40 AM

Hey, this one guy took a 03 cobra put a 2.2 inch pully, and other goodies and dynoed almost 800 hp....now that is some insane shiet..hehe soon to be running 9's!!! last run was 10.23 @ 13-somthing

izzyloveslizzy · 04-03-03, 01:36 AM

That @ 800HP? NOS'ed up probably. I've seen a crazier Mustang than that by the way. It's quarter mile was ~11 s. @ 110MPH (as I remember). I don't know doesn't sound right I'll have to check the source (if it's still alive).

thepolarfoxqx · 04-03-03, 01:42 AM

I was reading car craft the other day, an older issue. A man wrote in about a mustang he created. It had a 7.3L Powerstroke (navistar) T444E diesel. Tweaked to better than 500hp and 1,000 ft/lbs. I'd bet that would probably do a heck of a burnout.

Anyone have a more crazy mustang they've heard of.

T88TurboStang · 04-03-03, 01:55 AM

Hey you must remember htat the CObra has IRS, so wheel hop is bad, if he had the GT solid rear axle, atleast .5 second to 1 second diff....trsut me it makes that much of a diff...

he was using a 70 shot n20, but wants to move up to 150....god damn that stock blower is strong, i give it up to eaton for an amazing machine. Ford claims the most is 500 hp. He had the stock thing up to 600 untill he put the Kenne bell blower on....!!! can you say, "lightspeed Chewy"....hehe

izzyloveslizzy · 04-03-03, 02:16 AM

The Mustang I was talking about didn't have a Diesel (that would be way more Torquey and cool). But it did have a monster ~1100HP or so. And the Torque was at about the same number (maybe slightly lower). And it had some serious performance numbers. Very impressive indeed, but also getting a bit too pointless. I'll find the link to it and post it Fox.

T88TurboStang · 04-03-03, 02:24 AM

at a local mustang shop, XMP. they are building a 2 valvle single turbo 4.6 SOHC mustang, with 1200 hp, n20 and alcohal injected. It is oging to run at silverstate, and is suposedly goign to be hte fastest Two valve convertible in the world, exceeding 200 mph. This guy has so much money, that he rolled up in his 550 maranello, and dropped of his car, worte a check for 50 thousand dollars. TOld the guys what he wanted, and has been in work for hte past 6 months...lol

Now thats power.!!!