Ford Mustang Cobra - Page 2

thepolarfoxqx · 12-20-02, 04:30 AM

yeah it is.

That is a hell of a lot money i am sure, and a lot of power for the platform, and probably one hell of a lot of fun.

izzyloveslizzy · 03-18-03, 05:49 AM

Hey how about the 2004 SVT Cobra?

Nice car eh? Damn it looks nice (it's front looks like the front of the '67 Mustang).

N866DA · 03-18-03, 07:58 PM

Just a point of information, thepolarfoxqx, the Mustang Cobra does not outrun an LS1 powered Corvette to 60. The road test numbers I've seen clock the Cobra at 5.2 to 60 vs 4.8 for the LS1 powered Vette and 3.9 for the Z06.

The Cobra is a much heavier car, in fact, significantly heavier than the '02 Cobra because they had to go back to a cast iron block. So while they have more power than an LS1 powered Vette, their power to weight ratio is still inferior and the vehicle is still slower.

Close, but, as usual for Ford, no cigar.

izzyloveslizzy · 03-18-03, 11:23 PM

I have a question: Is this the same 390HP engine that appears in the 2004 SVT Mustang tuned to 400HP?

thepolarfoxqx · 03-22-03, 05:02 AM

car and driver as well as motor trend rate the cobra at 4.9 and 4.8 respectively. That is even with their vette numbers. Cobra is heavier. It also has more power, a longer and flatter torque curve, and more aggressive gearing. The 2004 400hp is the same engine with a new intake. They are also talking of a new intercooler, which would boost further, and possibly a higher output S/C. As of now, just the new intake good for 10hp.

izzyloveslizzy · 03-24-03, 07:27 AM

Shouldn't that thing be (theoretically) performing a bit better considering the improvements?

thepolarfoxqx · 03-24-03, 08:11 AM

the coupe is better than 3,600lbs, the convertible is about 3,800, so 4.8-4.9 0-60 is pretty nice for 390hp. I think it does pretty well with what it's got.

izzyloveslizzy · 03-25-03, 10:13 PM

I think it's time for this car to move up to 500HP. Just look at the next M5, it has 500HP as opposed to the older versions' ~400HP.

thepolarfoxqx · 03-26-03, 04:50 PM

The all aluminum supercharged and freon boosted intercooled 5.4L to go into the 2004 Lightening will fit under the hood of Cobra. That engine is the same as the 5.4L that goes into the GT, except for this has the ability to pump ultra-cold freon from the air-conditioning compressor through the intercooler, which adds 50hp peak.

I doubt we will see anything bigger than the 390 4.6 until the new mustange comes out for 2004/2005

izzyloveslizzy · 03-29-03, 12:25 AM

Well, it makes sense, too! If they make anything they have in their arsenal right now more than 390, then the 2004/2005 'stang will have to work out a little more and maybe make 450HP or so. Hmm. I wonder why it makes so little (comparatively) in the first place.

By the way, explain more about Freon, if you could. I'd love learning more about this. By the way I've had a question for a while which I keep forgetting to ask the pros: Is it possible to use Liquid Nitrogen for intercooling? Or do I just not know what I'm talking about? (I'm a huge fan of "overclocking" computers, and the obvious problem with this is overheating, which, in it's most extreme form, is taken care of by means of hooking up huge Liquid Nitrogen hoses to the CPU of the computer to destroy the heat, and maybe the processor! - maybe this can also be used in car engines? - and maybe it already has been; I don't know.).

Oh, also, remember you said you've never seen Nitrous up to 900HP, I've seen one up to 1200! It literally adds a solid 1200HP to the poor engine! (well maybe not so solid depending on which engine - wouldn't want to screw with a Tercel and add 1200 to it's feeble 90).