Ferrari meet Corvette

[LateNightCable]

Originally Posted by iroc-z89 what LNC you dont believe in tuning your ferrari in your garage with the computer you used in the 80's, and holding it up on cinder blocks. To change the spark plugs.

Sure I do, but I don't know how a spit polish and new plugs hammered in with a rusty battle ax is going to look on the service records.

Yeah the vette is gonna be nice but, i do feel that they can crank maybe 650hp out of a LS series 427. I mean come on. A 1st gen 383 block can do that with heads and cam.

The Corvette C5-R made 600+ from it's 6.0 V8. And since the racing program is a big test bed for the Vette team, I could see them easily cranking at least that much from the LS7 for an "ultimate" ZO6 conservatively. The car already weighs a good deal less than a Ferrari F430. There have been no full independent road tests yet, but there are no two ways about it, the new ZO6 is just killer. It's amazing what they've been able to offer for less than 100k. Even the Ford GT doesn't offer that kind of bang for the buck.

As for the maintenance costs of a current Ferrari, which Bleh and I were discussing, here are some of Ferrari's own estimates.

As per the Ferrari factory

Every year or 5,000 miles... annual service ~$1,400
10,000 miles ~$1,400
15,000 miles ~$2,500
20,000 miles ~$1,400

Every 3 Years or 30,000 miles... major service $7,500 - $8,500

Most modern Ferrari's don't clock really high miles, but still. After 30,000 miles, your shelling out nearly 10k every three years to keep your prancing horse in ship shape. True, exotics are not for the faint of heart, nor faint of wallet, but the ZO6 is looking better every day.

[bleh]

it doesnt seem as bad as a thought! i doubt that many miles would be put on that quickly, i mean not many people can have it as their commuter. i really thought it would be much worse!!

maybe it was lamborghini that was through the roof maintenance costs.

[LateNightCable]

It isn't as bad as I thought it might be either.

Lamborghini maintenance is much more costly I'm sure, not many places in the U.S. to service them either. The dealer network is loose to say the least.

And I'm sure Iroc will love how we hijacked his thread.

[bleh]

well he started it with the title. and i think he would be happy to know that we agree with him 100%

[iroc-z89]

hijack it all you want, i am sorry for not posting but i work 1pm-9pm and have been busy for awhile. Personally, If the engine has to be what rebuilt every 30K i would rather buy an old ferrari with some body damage. The build my 600hp LS2 454 and mate it to the tranny i showed bleh and drive it for 200,000 miles with minor tuneups.

Oh as for the cinder block treat me the camaro got one of them it took me 7 hours to change the old original spark plugs. No rusty axe but a rusty hammer to break the insulator do to the factor that the 3rd gen is the smallest camaro ever built. Then 2 weeks worth of trial and error to rebuild the dizzy. (getting parts and setting timing with out a timing light 45* advance yay. )

oh yes I cant wait to see the new LS7 ripping up these ferraris and lambos. The VIPER is extinct. Granted before the ferrari boys get pissed the ones coming out summer aren't a threat. Ist the ones a few years from now that will show you up. lol

[bleh]

Originally Posted by iroc-z89 The build my 600hp LS2 454 and mate it to the tranny i showed bleh and drive it for 200,000 miles with minor tuneups.

when i see it ill believe it... it would be a fun setup... but in a ferrari??? why not just drop the tranny you were talking about into the basemodel vette? with some headwork and boltons?

you know what ive really been wanting the more and more i see it. the new gto. put the tranny in that with boltons, man that would be fun and not many would suspect it.

[LateNightCable]

Well, the engine is the heart of every car, but probably most of all in a car such as Ferrari. A Ferrari without it's small displacement, screaming Italian V8 or 12-cylinder would change the character completely. Like I never understood why people put GM 350 V8's into old Jaguar's. Sure, it might fit, but what a Frankenstein.

I'm sure Ferrari's won't have to wait a few years to feel the heat of the ZO6. If the power and weight stats mean anything, the 2006 model promises to handily outrun an F430 - most of the way anyway.

Another thing about the expensive 30,000 mile Ferrari service. Many look upon Ferrari engines as state of the art mechanical masterpieces - which they are, and then wonder why nobody else makes them like that. This is the reason. 'State of the art' comes at a price, and expecting the customer to fork out $8,000 for a periodic overhaul would not be practical for a high volume car manufacturer. Volume production has come a long way though. The LS7 for one, which is a combination of state of the art and tried and true, is a borderline race engine, and comes with reletively normal service intervals I'm sure being that it's a Chevy.

[g-unit marko]

Ferrari is a car for those who have money to spend to show that they have accomplished something big in their life where as the vette in my opinion is a car that true carguys buy.I have a good friend of mine who has 3 Ferraris (F40 , 360 modena spyder F1, 360 challenge stradele) who also has a 02 Z06 and if you ask him which car he likes the most he will tell you the Z06 only because he can drive it everyday and really push it to the limits without any problems, where as the Ferrari he needs to bring a guy to inspect the car before he takes it out for a weekend.He admits the z06 it it faster then both 360s but not the F40 and that the vette will never have the styling of a ferrari, that signature ferrari sound nor that attention factor but when you think about it you can buy 3 second hand z06s that give you almost the same driving pleasure because you are driving a better car then 90% of the cars on the road for the price of one entry line 360
The new C6 vettes are in my opinion the best bang for the buck car that you can buy and still have that reliability for everyday driving.
I 100% agree with everyone in this post that the new vette is the new benchmark

[savemyxy]

It will never handle as good as a Ferrari, though. Driving at the limit through twisty mountain roads, the Ferarri would caress you and make you feel like a racing driver, whereas the 'Vette would scare the living s**t out of you and then kill you.